Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[snowbird]

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Thanks for the explaination on all this, This explains what a lot of poster are wanting to know. Thanks, Don

 

[VillageChicken]

n.smithurmond-

I think others on this thread know better than I do if it will be impossible to get a proper BCM if melanizers and mahogany are missing. I think that is what makes breeding a perfect BCM so challenging. I believe some of the melanizers MUST be missing for a hen to show her copper properly. But if those same melanizers are missing on a rooster that is otherwise genetically identical, he may show too much copper, or show white feathers, which is a subject or another whole debate. Too much mahogany, the copper color is too dark. Too little and it is too blonde or straw colored. Too much melanizers, hens don't show their copper. Too little and you get mossiness. Wheaten background just makes the correct formula a lot tricker. Not impossible.

Geebs - we've talked on this before - am I speaking too broadly, or am I on track?

 

[snowbird]

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This all confirms what I have said about single and double mating to get good female and good males. Thanks, Don

 

[n.smithurmond]

That's been very helpful VillageChicken! Thanks. So where does egg color fit into all this talk about breed standards and type? As pretty as a Black Copper might be I wouldn't have the slightest interest in having them in the flock if it weren't for the egg color after all...

 

[n.smithurmond]

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This all confirms what I have said about single and double mating to get good female and good males. Thanks, Don

Forgive me yet again: single mating I gathered was one male, one female, but what is double mating?

 

[Darth Egger]

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[snowbird]

n.smithurmond :

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This all confirms what I have said about single and double mating to get good female and good males. Thanks, Don

Forgive me yet again: single mating I gathered was one male, one female, but what is double mating?​

Double mating is just two single matings, one for female and one for males. Don

 

[berkeleysprings]

wheaten are the ones i am interested in and i have a small flock of davis/presley lines ,i dont know for sure if white feathers are a sign of wheaten influance , so the way i see it is ....
e based birds like shelf black have black undercolor ......
cuckoo birds are deluted to greay,blue due to barring gene,,,,
er birds such as bc and birchin are similar....
ewh birds like wheaten and black tailed buff,colombian have white undercolor birds like salmon and golden cuckoo have grey/blue undercolor
so my question is people with bc showing white feathers is that comeing from the hens since wheaten roos have no white feathers ,,, just white-ish undercolor
also,,,, is it the undercolor of the wheaten comeing threw on peoples bc ?
the three shades on wheaten hens are wheat ,dark red and cream so weres the white ?,,,, so when some people talk about white feathers on be do they realy mean cream ?
i was just wondering
ps i am totaly kidding about what i am about to say but everyone blames the trouble on my poor wheaten lol lol




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[snowbird]

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Randy, the wheaten female has the white undercolor, the wheaten male has the gray undercolor. Don

 

[snowbird]

I will be off line for a while as I have some things I need to do and also to take a break, good luck with your Marans to all. Don