Vicki, I believe once you get the Blue Copper to where you like the looks there is no reason to use the BC any longer. With all the action on here lately could you post the Blue Copper male again. I remember looking at him.very good. On that blue copper male I posted the other day, what do you think of how he turned out? I have a long way to go with some parts before I'm happy, but I'm getting there on the evenness of the copper and better size of the bird itself.