Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

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Ditto. I would think if one really WAS showing their poultry, they would know the breed standard AND the correct name, especially the fact that Marans ALWAYS has an "s".
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Look at at least two or more of the pictures and you will see stiff hard feathers hanging down over the Shanks coming from the lower thigh, that is what is called vulture shanks.

This is how one sight defines it:

Vulture hocks are long stiff feathers protruding down and back from the hock joint.
another site says....

Best described as feathers that descend from the back of the birds hock, (knee joint) and continue on for about 2-3cm.Pointing downwards, like a vulture. One breed in which this is a feature, not a fault is the Sultan.

Don, when I looked at pictures of Sultan's feet, I did not see the same thing on DMrippy's birds.... Which picture of her birds do you see it in?
 
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"Brown-red" is the official name in France - where the breed originated - that we refer to as "Black Copper".

Brown Red pattern would not be acceptable for the Black Copper Marans in the APA SOP. In the APA brown Red is entirely different.

Is that why we had to come up with another name for that color variety for North American Marans?
 
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Brown Red pattern would not be acceptable for the Black Copper Marans in the APA SOP. In the APA brown Red is entirely different.

Is that why we had to come up with another name for that color variety for North American Marans?

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Look at at least two or more of the pictures and you will see stiff hard feathers hanging down over the Shanks coming from the lower thigh, that is what is called vulture shanks.

This is how one sight defines it:

Vulture hocks are long stiff feathers protruding down and back from the hock joint.
another site says....

Best described as feathers that descend from the back of the birds hock, (knee joint) and continue on for about 2-3cm.Pointing downwards, like a vulture. One breed in which this is a feature, not a fault is the Sultan.

Don, when I looked at pictures of Sultan's feet, I did not see the same thing on DMrippy's birds.... Which picture of her birds do you see it in?

Lisa, Look at the next to last Picture of a pullet as that is the one I remember most. That is a Vulture Hock.
 
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Do not know who you bought these mixed Marans from but would contact them and ask them where the VULTURE hocks came from. Marans do not have Vulture Hocks.

So I guess the PICTURE WELCOME at the top are not really welcome. It should say something like ONLY IF IT MEETS SOP. Thanks for your time!
 
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Do not know who you bought these mixed Marans from but would contact them and ask them where the VULTURE hocks came from. Marans do not have Vulture Hocks.

So I guess the PICTURE WELCOME at the top are not really welcome. It should say something like ONLY IF IT MEETS SOP. Thanks for your time!

Donna, Just put no critique wanted when you post.
 
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I agree!! I think some of these folks take their birds to the local fair, get a participation ribbon, and call it a "show bird". I really loved the spelling of the people who stole Bev Davis' roo's pic on ebay. They were selling "Black Cooper Mariains"
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Thanks for all of the commentary to my posts.

I'm not really a "chicken person", my son is, but he's only 12 and not really mature enough to "chat and post" on here without supervision. One day soon I'm hoping (Facebook lets them have an account at 13). He'll be practicing his chat etiquette in the Smack Talk in Fantasy Football for the 2nd year. (he needs a little refinement). Anyways, he loves everything on here (read only).

I apologize for not speaking all the chicken lingo properly. I basically am learning.

We were told by the person who gave those chickens to us (the Marans) that they are copper black x copper blue splash (because he has white feathers on the wing tips if you spread them out) and believe it or not, he's a chicken judge. So we do value his knowledge of chickens immensely.

I think he also was telling us about the copper black and brown red and something about the French....it's hard to keep up with everything when it's all new and confusing.

Basically I'm the adult liason for my son when dealing with chickens. He'll soak up all the chicken details. So I apologize.

So, what was the consensus ? The blue chickies will turn out to be all Copper blue or Copper blue splash ? Some of the black maran chickies had some pure white on their wing tips too.

The hen's eggs were so dark in the beginning (like the pics on the website). Now they seem to be a couple shades lighter. Not that important (we're not showing eggs or anything - just wondering....)

Well, I'm going to enjoy my time reading and learning more about Marans on here, I'm sure.

Thanks everyone !
 

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