Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[pinkchick]

Thank you ladies.


Vicki~ I swore to myself that I wasn't going to look at the photos of your Blue Birchen girl....but I did.

I want them in blue too dang it! I'm so impatient.

 

[gilavina]

Thank you ladies.


Vicki~ I swore to myself that I wasn't going to look at the photos of your Blue Birchen girl....but I did.

I want them in blue too dang it! I'm so impatient.

haha too funny. Soon enough you'll get there! I'm still so happy you got that many to hatch from the blacks! I'm a bundle of nerves waiting.....got the hatcher warming up and ready to go...so no long now...

 

[Debbi]

Thank you ladies.


Vicki~ I swore to myself that I wasn't going to look at the photos of your Blue Birchen girl....but I did.

I want them in blue too dang it! I'm so impatient.

I can't believe you didn't start with the blues?? You're slippin' lady.

 

[pinkchick]

I can't believe you didn't start with the blues?? You're slippin' lady.

I couldn't find any that were the quality that I wanted and Vicki won't share yet.

 

[desertmarcy]

Lately I see some still saying that the BC males can have 10% copper in the breast area. Where is this info. coming from ? We should not be encouraging new Marans people to breed these Copper copper breast males as they will produce more junk than anyone would want. Stay away from these copper co;ored breast and you will have less headaches to worry about.

Also if you are breeding to the APA SOP the only breed group that has a say is the Sponsoring club. None of the other clubs breed standards mean anything.

I had always thought they were supposed to have solid black breast, and that is what I am trying to achieve. My founding male had solid black and then developed some copper on the breast after he was older and all the others had long since been butchered. Sorry to be ignorant, but which club is the sponsoring club, I am confused on the different clubs. I joined the APA after the BCM was put into the Standard, I assume they had sent members a copy, no? Anyway, the only place I could find a standard was on the Marans Chicken Club USA site (marans.org), the other club, Marans of America, did not have the standard on their site. The Standard on the Marans.org site states for the black copper: "Breast: Solid black or with a few copper spots. Not laced."

 

[pinkchick]

I will make my own with one of my Splash girls. Huge project but what the hay, right?

 

[pinkchick]

Marcy~
I believe he is referring to the MCCUSA when he suggests the sponsoring club.

 

[Arielle]

Is anyone else having trouble with the "reply" and posting pics?? The reply button only brings up the plain version, no font colors, B I or U or the smilies. I also can't paste a picture to this reply format. What's up? This started yesterday..

For me, this problem comes and goes. Started a month or so ago. Inconsistently a problem.

 

[gilavina]

I couldn't find any that were the quality that I wanted and Vicki won't share yet.

haha...I've been hearing I'm hoarding my birdies more than once on here....I'm not meaning to...just want good quality and have them all test mated and producing more consistent results that I feel comfortable with. I don't want to send Marans out into the world that won't give someone else really good prospects. Especially in the birchens. They are in so much need of improvement overall...especially with all the birds I've seen as examples that I'm going to be doubly careful. Just my perfectionist nature I guess....goodness knows I'm not making any money going this way at the moment hahha

 

[Arielle]

From the MCCUSA Site:

Black Copper Standard of Perfection

Male
Comb, Face, Wattles, & Ear-Lobes: Bright red.
Beak: Horn, black shading permitted.
Eyes: Reddish bay.
Head: Lustrous deep copper, neither yellow nor mahogany.
Neck— Hackle : Lustrous deep copper, neither yellow nor mahogany. Some feathers, especially in the lower hackle, may include a narrow dark stripe through the middle of each feather, terminating in a point near its lower extremity.
Front of neck : Black with markings of deep copper.
Back: Lustrous deep copper.
Saddle : Same as hackle.
Tail— Main Tail :Black with slight luster.
Sickles and Coverts : Lustrous black.
Wings—Shoulders : Black.
Fronts : Black.
Bows : Deep russet red.
Coverts : Lustrous black.
Primaries : Black.
Secondaries : Black, exposed portion forming black wing bay.
Breast: Solid black or with a few copper spots. Not laced.
Body & Stern: Black.
Legs & Toes— Lower Thighs : Black.
Shanks and Toes : Shanks and toes light to mid-slate, showing pink between the scales. Bottoms of feet pinkish white.
Shank and Toe Feathers : Black.
Female
Comb, Face, Wattles, & Ear-Lobes: Bright red.
Beak: Dark horn.
Eyes: Reddish bay.
Head: Lustrous copper.
Neck - Hackle : Copper, with a narrow dark stripe through the middle of each feather, terminating to a point near its lower extremity.
Front of Neck : Black with markings of copper.
Back: Black.
Tail: Black.
Wings: Black.
Breast: Solid black.
Body & Stern: Black.
Legs & Toes—Lower Thighs : Black.
Shanks and Toes ark slate, bottoms of feet pinkish white.
Shank and Toe Feathers : Black

THanks for posting this Pink.

Q to all: Interesting that it is the HEN that is allowed the copper in the neck front. DOes this mean a rooster with a completely black front, not sure the is correct term. THe area on the front of the neck where the hackles have parted; all black is preferred??

Don~
While we are on the topic of the breast.......what's your take on the differences in the markings on the breast that are indicitive of Wheaten influences and those that are suppose to be copper markings?
In my opinion, the 2 markings and how they look are completely different.


Still searching for photos of the breast with copper markings to compare to the breast with stippling and shafting.