So... I decided to do the candeling since it was dark and close enough. Very doubtful on any of the first group of 27 hatching. They're the ones that looked like the post office drop kicked them. I pulled 7 out for sure clear. Many too dark to be sure and a couple iffy but not one looked good for day almost 9. I decided to candle a few of the white breese though and they look great for day 4. I saw a tiny heart beating. I hope they keep it up. All those air cells looked solid so will start turning them tomorrow.