Wow I had a lot of reading to do just to catch up.On some of the other forums I just read the last few pages, but I don't seem to be able to do that here. Bogtown I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. My heart goes out to you & your family. I cried too knowing that I could lose mine at any time (12& 14 yrs). I know that every day I have with my seniors is a blessing. I agree, you have to evaluate costs versus the outcomes (goes for humans too). Paddy has a lump that it would be too hard on him to put him under to remove. all we do is manage his pain & keep him happy & comfortable. Duluthralphie congrats on the creamettes & turkeys. You too Nordicacres. My cochin roo is not a Mensa candidate. I think the only reason he stays in the coop is he can't figure out how to get out. On these nice days I've opened the big doors, then he'll venture out for a bit.I put him in the pullet coop next door but he some how managed to get that big body of his up over the fence (5' welded wire, no cover). It's too bad I'm not a fabulous story teller, or it would be more interesting trying to keep the chickens out of the newly seeded pasture. The Icelandics are definitely a type A personality, they don't let anything stand in their way of what they want. I'll think about it after we get the alpacas sheared on Mon. This will be the 3rd year of fiber, so I think now I have enough to start selling. Most if it is raw, but some is made into yarn already. I you know any spinners PM me.