Muscovy with walking problems, please help?!!!!

[goosedragon]

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Go back to Southern States and ask for their 18% pellet Waterfowl feed, Its not medicated my birds all did very well on that.

 

[kysilkies]

Will do, thanx!

 

[goosedragon]

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The brewer's yeast in the beer I drink isn't all killed either, people have been drinking beer with live yeast for generations, Also bakers yeast is mostly live yeast or no one would use it to bake with!

 

[horsejody]

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The brewer's yeast in the beer I drink isn't all killed either, people have been drinking beer with live yeast for generations, Also bakers yeast is mostly live yeast or no one would use it to bake with!

The live yeast that you use in beer making is not the same as the tablets. You use live yeast in the beer. The stuff in the tablets isn't active.

 

[kysilkies]

I let it sit for 3hrs then nuked it for 30 seconds and it turned to a pudding like consistency, is that right?...If so, wait till it cools and mix with a treat?!?!?

 

[Duck_feeder]

For those of you wondering about brewer's yeast and whether or not it contains live yeast, I finished my little experiment with brewer's yeast I got from the feed store. This is a powder, not a tablet. Tablet's sold as supplements to PEOPLE generally don't contain live yeast.

Control:
1/4 cup water
1/2 tsp sugar

Baker's yeast:
1/4 cup water
1/2 tsp sugar
1/4 tsp baker's yeast

Brewer's yeast:
1/4 cup water
1/2 tsp sugar
1/4 tsp brewer's yeast

As expected there was no reaction in my control sample. This rules out my water and sugar as sources of yeast.

Baker's yeast foamed relatively quickly which was also expected.

Upon close inspection it appears that the brewer's yeast contains a significant amount of fermentation waste products. Based on appearance, I'd guess that more of the brewer's yeast was crushed barley. Not surprising as brewer's yeast is a waste product of making alcoholic beverages - it'd be a waste of money to filter out the fermented product.. It took much longer for any CO2 production to be evident (overnight), and there was not much of a yeasty smell I'd expect from heavy yeast production. I did notice a more putrid smell which suggests bacterial growth (I've spent enough time in labs to know...)

Based on my experiment, I can conclude one of the following is true:
1. There is active yeast in brewer's yeast but in relatively low concentrations. This can be due to one of the following:
a) Dilution from the fermented product (barley?)
b) Most of the yeast died during processing

2. The reaction i observed was random contamination of the brewer's yeast
a) The brewer's yeast was store in an open container in the feed store. Random contamination is expected.
b) The long time needed to show signs of fermentation suggests a very low concentration of the fermenting microbe. We high contrentrations should have shown signs of fermentation much sooner.
c) The putrid odor suggests that the CO2 formation may not be from yeast but rather a gas forming bacteria.

I cannot conclusively determine if the yeast used to make the brewer's yeast is alive in my sample without further testing (which I am not inclined to do as I would need to purchase a lot of specialized equipment...) I can however conclude that there is live microbes in the brewer's yeast. This is not a concern as the concentrations are low and are extremely unlikely to harm your poultry (probably "cleaner" than any plants they eat outdoors).

Assuming ducks have sufficient acid in their stomachs, baker's yeast shouldn't pose a problem, but as I mentioned earlier in this thread, it is very easy to kill the yeast. Just wet it and heat it.

(I actually had fun doing this mini experiment. It's been a decade since I put my microbiology degree to use.

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[Duck_feeder]

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Yeah, the thickening is due to all the starch getting heated (similar to making gravy or thickening sauces). Let it cool and mix with some treats.

 

[kysilkies]

He's chirping up a storm devouring it now!!!!!!!!! He, and I, thank you!