My neighbor IS A MURDERER!!!!

[OldGuy43]

'nough said.

 

[bird-brain]

Wow. All I can say is wow about this thread. Dude broke the law. There is no way around that and has, by the only account we have about it, been a complete donkey about the whole thing. BUT (there's always a but) Your view of trees, wildlife etc is not his responsibility. Typically people buy what they can afford and then make it fit their needs not the other way around. Most of us cant afford the "perfect piece of property". I mean, I read comments like if he didn't want trees why did he buy property that had them and you don't realize the question works both ways, if you wanted trees, why didn't you buy a property that HAD them? It's tough for me to take this seriously when every suggestion to plant your own gets shot down. It really comes across that you are more concerned with not being able to bird watch. If that's the case, put up some feeders and proper nesting boxes and you will keep some species anyway. Crows will roost in cities and unless these are the only trees for miles around, you can still attract your bird friends.

It appears that the man has some issues but if his actions are against the law, I would take as much of an issue with authorities who are dragging their feet on enforcing these laws. In the mean time, plant your own tree/trees. No, you may not see them live to become giants but they will become so. And if the issue is truly the environment you have contributed to the restoration. Birds will come back and renew their habitat, future generations will enjoy them and you will have rebuilt what others tore down. I honestly do understand why the OP is upset. I would just encourage taking that passion and making a positive step with it.

 

[chickened]

I thought we had moved past cutting the king's trees in the royal forest?

If this man broke the law your responsibility ended when you reported him. Lamenting over it is not going to solve your problem. Get up and plant some trees of your own if you feel that strongly about it. That is about all you can do now anyhow really.

I see no difference in coveting your neighbors wife or trees or any other object of desire.

 

[Nicole01]

Wow! That is completely awful. My yard is full of trees and we have about 3 full acres of 4 that are woods on our property! I'm currently in the process of filling my yard with many more trees! I just ordered 100 red maple tree and 50 red pine tree seeds to plant in a planter and transplant where it's bare. Especially on the side where our chicken coop is. Most the pine that i can grow will go on that side with many others. I absolutely adore all trees, even the thorny kind that protect my flock from hawks.

 

[Malibu99]

'nough said.

I have absolutely no input on this thread, but I must say:

LOL

 

[furbabymum]

I have a dislike for all the birds on our property as we have about a million gazillion of the little pluckers. We've had a lot of our nice big trees dying off lately. I'm going to be out there soon cutting them down. Hope my neighbors don't think I'm a nature hater. Love nature, hate fire hazards.

 

[furbabymum]

I'd like to add that I have over 100 pine trees on my property. If I see a single sign of pine beetle I MUST cut the tree down and burn it or risk the rest of them. So, it's not always senseless killing. He may be senslessing cutting down trees but not everyone who chops one down does it because they hate nature.

 

[ChicknThief]

I don't see a real problem with this. Yes it's lamentable that the nests were disturbed, but you reported it. And that's all you can do. It's his property. I know you feel strongly about this, but consider if the tables were turned. What if one of your neighbors believed that keeping chickens was evil and wrong because chickens are a part of nature and should roam free and wild. I bet you wouldn't agree with that. And I bet you wouldn't turn all your chickens loose just because someone else said it's the right thing to do. Same thing applies to him. I grew up on a large piece of land, and what do you think we spent every summer of my childhood doing? Clearing brush and trees. Someone else posted that people buy the land they can afford and make it suit their needs, not the other way around. And that is exactly right. If that wasn't right, then I bet you would have bought a big piece of property full of trees.

Wow. All I can say is wow about this thread. Dude broke the law. There is no way around that and has, by the only account we have about it, been a complete donkey about the whole thing. BUT (there's always a but) Your view of trees, wildlife etc is not his responsibility. Typically people buy what they can afford and then make it fit their needs not the other way around. Most of us cant afford the "perfect piece of property". I mean, I read comments like if he didn't want trees why did he buy property that had them and you don't realize the question works both ways, if you wanted trees, why didn't you buy a property that HAD them? It's tough for me to take this seriously when every suggestion to plant your own gets shot down. It really comes across that you are more concerned with not being able to bird watch. If that's the case, put up some feeders and proper nesting boxes and you will keep some species anyway. Crows will roost in cities and unless these are the only trees for miles around, you can still attract your bird friends.

It appears that the man has some issues but if his actions are against the law, I would take as much of an issue with authorities who are dragging their feet on enforcing these laws. In the mean time, plant your own tree/trees. No, you may not see them live to become giants but they will become so. And if the issue is truly the environment you have contributed to the restoration. Birds will come back and renew their habitat, future generations will enjoy them and you will have rebuilt what others tore down. I honestly do understand why the OP is upset. I would just encourage taking that passion and making a positive step with it.

 

[twentynine]

To the OP

I find myself thinking real hard about this thread, started to respond a few hours ago and thought better of it, then I went back and reread the original post.

Let me qualify my opinion first. I own 13.89 acres give or take a few hundreths. When the property came into my ownership (1985 or so) it was being used for cattle grazing. Having spent many hours--- many more than you can possibly understand. I built fence to remove the cattle from the property, that is, nearly 4800' of running fence. I spent days on the tractor seat improving drainage. Spent months removing the invasive species trees- in this case, chinese tallow, and every year I continue to spend time removing last years chinese tallow seedlings. After a full 5 years of work I started reforesting. Being a young man with a young family, I had everything but money. I spent days collecting acorns and hickory nuts from the few oak and hickory trees that were on my property. That first year I planted them in a small 10'X10' raised bed. The next spring I transplanted the 6" tall seedlings and manually by hand planted thousands. The following years I purchased pine trees from La. State Forestry service at the price of $80 per 1000. Made a big mistake that year, I purchased 3000 trees in one lump. Do you know how many times you have to bend over and how long it takes to plant 3000 trees. I was night and day at it for what seemed like eternity. Then in the next years it was the pecan trees, I planted a 3 acre grove. Once again I collected pecans, sprouted them in a 5 gallon bucket the 1st year. Year 2 I sellected the best seedlings and grafted with desirable type scions. Year 3, I transplanted to the ground.

Here's a photo 20 years after the work. Pecans are in the foreground, pines are to right, oak and hardwood forest to the left rear. Horse is named Cody.
http://cdn.backyardchickens.com/b/bf/900x900px-LL-bff01584_34316_img00046-20100712-1524.jpeg

All this work, what did it get me, satisfaction, but also so interference from my nieghbors. They wanted to tell me how, when, why and why not I should plant trees on my property. The best deal was the guy I caught cutting down a 10' tall pine tree-- my pine tree! When I questioned him, why, his answer was he needed a Christmass tree. You can not imagine how abussed I felt.

The point of all this is. I am equally offended by your description of the property/tree owner as a b****ard and the use of other offensive terms when describing the property owner's activity while on his own property! You don't own it! You don't own the view! And you don't own the trees!

First fact, I pay taxes on my property, on my trees, and any structure I would build on the property if I decided to remove the trees. If you would question me as to why I am removing the trees I would give you the real reason, timber sales, storm damage whatever. But if you would ever and I mean ever, make the mistake of even trying to tell me what I should or should not do on my property--- I'd point my finger right in your face and explain very plainly, that the property you were standing on (assuming you came on to my land) was mine as far down as you could ever dig, and then I'd tell you to look up, and tell you that as high as you could jump was mine too! And you would be not so politely asked to beat feet.

 

[chicken pickin]

To the OP

I find myself thinking real hard about this thread, started to respond a few hours ago and thought better of it, then I went back and reread the original post.

Let me qualify my opinion first. I own 13.89 acres give or take a few hundreths. When the property came into my ownership (1985 or so) it was being used for cattle grazing. Having spent many hours--- many more than you can possibly understand. I built fence to remove the cattle from the property, that is, nearly 4800' of running fence. I spent days on the tractor seat improving drainage. Spent months removing the invasive species trees- in this case, chinese tallow, and every year I continue to spend time removing last years chinese tallow seedlings. After a full 5 years of work I started reforesting. Being a young man with a young family, I had everything but money. I spent days collecting acorns and hickory nuts from the few oak and hickory trees that were on my property. That first year I planted them in a small 10'X10' raised bed. The next spring I transplanted the 6" tall seedlings and manually by hand planted thousands. The following years I purchased pine trees from La. State Forestry service at the price of $80 per 1000. Made a big mistake that year, I purchased 3000 trees in one lump. Do you know how many times you have to bend over and how long it takes to plant 3000 trees. I was night and day at it for what seemed like eternity. Then in the next years it was the pecan trees, I planted a 3 acre grove. Once again I collected pecans, sprouted them in a 5 gallon bucket the 1st year. Year 2 I sellected the best seedlings and grafted with desirable type scions. Year 3, I transplanted to the ground.

Here's a photo 20 years after the work. Pecans are in the foreground, pines are to right, oak and hardwood forest to the left rear. Horse is named Cody.
http://cdn.backyardchickens.com/b/bf/900x900px-LL-bff01584_34316_img00046-20100712-1524.jpeg

All this work, what did it get me, satisfaction, but also so interference from my nieghbors. They wanted to tell me how, when, why and why not I should plant trees on my property. The best deal was the guy I caught cutting down a 10' tall pine tree-- my pine tree! When I questioned him, why, his answer was he needed a Christmass tree. You can not imagine how abussed I felt.

The point of all this is. I am equally offended by your description of the property/tree owner as a b****ard and the use of other offensive terms when describing the property owner's activity while on his own property! You don't own it! You don't own the view! And you don't own the trees!

First fact, I pay taxes on my property, on my trees, and any structure I would build on the property if I decided to remove the trees. If you would question me as to why I am removing the trees I would give you the real reason, timber sales, storm damage whatever. But if you would ever and I mean ever, make the mistake of even trying to tell me what I should or should not do on my property--- I'd point my finger right in your face and explain very plainly, that the property you were standing on (assuming you came on to my land) was mine as far down as you could ever dig, and then I'd tell you to look up, and tell you that as high as you could jump was mine too! And you would be not so politely asked to beat feet.

very well put