Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

It's an outside dog I can't do anything with him but chain him up which all he does is whine all day and strangle himself trying to get off which leads to fights between me and my husband...I've tried to keep him locked up in the shed but this just isn't humane as it gets 100+ degrees here...
Thanks for the condolences guys I'm just so upset of all the chicks to kill he had to kill my favorite roo... My DH thinks this could be it he's jealous of the attention the birds get but all he does is lay in his coop all day what am I supposed to give attention to?
Sorry for the rambling...

More excellent responses. I'll just touch on the dog killing things- it's not jealousy at all. Dogs are from predator animals, while they don't have to kill to eat anymore, the prey drive is still strong in most dogs. You know the ball chasing? Shaking a little toy? Pulling and shredding things up? All predator based instincts- prey chase- catch/kill- de fur/feather behaviors. Very cute when it's not live things but it is exactly the same things that would have been on a live-something if available. It's not being mean just SO much fun and exciting to the dog.

It's just a fact of that particular dog having a high prey drive and high energy from the sounds of it.. simply not a good combination with any small animals without serious time and training.

 

[ShayBaby]

I'm so about to cry! My barred roo above got bit by my dog and had his crop torn out... I had to put him down, I don't know what to do with the dog it's my husbands favorite dog or he would have had a bullet in his head already! How do you brake a dog of this? This is the third he's killed but the others were him just wanting to play this time he actually tried to kill it and I interupted him... :-(

So sorry for your loss. Poor guy. So glad I keep my dogs fenced. I just know they'd all be chicken killers. What's ironic is just before I logged in and saw this, I was talking with my grandmother and she was telling me about the dog they used to have that killed chicks. They tied one of the ones he killed to its collar and made it wear it around for a few days. He never bothered another chicken again. I've heard methods like this before but can't personally guarantee them. I'll sure try it though if I ever have to..

 

[sharkman]

I think if you were the leader of that dog you might be able to get him to stop.If you or your husband put the dog on a leash and tie it up near the chickens and intimidate it and yell bad dog and no at it and hold a chicken by it and yell no you can put the dog in its place. Is it a big dog? Does it usualy listen to you? if not you need to dominate and teach it you are the pack leader. Let it loose when you are out there and keep an eye on it and if it even looks at a chicken be there to disapline it and if it does not listen put it back on the leash tree. I have a freind with 3 springer spaniels who are hyper birding dogs and a doberman and when they got chickens they were very worried but a few days of watching them and telling them no they lost interest in them and have been fine for a year with not one problem. I think you just need to let the dog know you are the boss and those chicken are yours!!!

 

[pgpoultry]

I have a dog, 2 cats and lots of chickens and sheep. They all mingle freely and amicably.....nobody ever injures anybody else.....but I count myself as incredibly fortunate in this situation. Dog....Border Collie (in the avatar), cats....mutts....all VERY lively.

I have to agree with pretty much everything that has been said. If you have a dog who acts out his natural instincts with your chickens, he/she probably ought to go.From what is being described, his actions are being repeated and are not likely to resolve.

I had chickens before the dog came, so he was exposed to them from a very early age. One chicken regularly shares his bed in the outhouse at night, and she ALWAYS takes the best spot. Jared (the dog) lets me know when one of the chickens hasn't gone into the hen coops at night, so now sees himself as chicken guardian..

This non-working sheepdog dog used to chase sheep as a youngster. We keep sheep, and sheep worrying is one reason that the local farmer can get out his shotgun (not much gun use around here!). He was cured of this by my accidentally locking him in the lambing shed (of all places) for several hours.When I eventually found him he was lying some feet away from a particularly large ewe with a newborn lamb...and he has had perfect manners round all sheep ever since. I don't know what that ewe did, but I can leave him in the midst of tiny lambs and he will just sit to the side.

It is just possible that having your dog chained up next to a particularly aggressive rooster may 'cure' him, but dogs can be deadly killers.Rehoming to where there are no chickens would be my ideal, but humane destruction may be the only answer.

 

[Kev]

Haha poor Jared but whatever it was ended up being a good thing in the long run.

That's one way to train cats not to go after chickens- a mother hen willing to be physical to protect her biddies. I've heard of some letting puppies get overly curious with those mother hens for similar reasons. So it can work. I would not recommend this with a known chicken killer- it's not likely to be deterred in any way by a hen- they know those things are helpless so it'd be just putting a chicken right in his mouth.

One of my safest dogs with the poultry was a dog that had no chase instinct at all. He really needed no training even though he was already a full adult before any exposure to poultry. Ah how I miss him(Dino).

A common advise for persons looking for livestock guardian dog is to look for pups or dogs that don't show any or much prey drive- no interest in tossed balls or a towel being dragged around. Generally those are the easiest to raise up amongst different kinds of livestock.

Always exceptions though, like your and DDD's border collies being great with poultry.

 

[uglychickens]

Thanks for all the help guys!

 

[aoxa]

Haha poor Jared but whatever it was ended up being a good thing in the long run.

That's one way to train cats not to go after chickens- a mother hen willing to be physical to protect her biddies. I've heard of some letting puppies get overly curious with those mother hens for similar reasons. So it can work. I would not recommend this with a known chicken killer- it's not likely to be deterred in any way by a hen- they know those things are helpless so it'd be just putting a chicken right in his mouth.

One of my safest dogs with the poultry was a dog that had no chase instinct at all. He really needed no training even though he was already a full adult before any exposure to poultry. Ah how I miss him(Dino).

A common advise for persons looking for livestock guardian dog is to look for pups or dogs that don't show any or much prey drive- no interest in tossed balls or a towel being dragged around. Generally those are the easiest to raise up amongst different kinds of livestock.

Always exceptions though, like your and DDD's border collies being great with poultry.

Excellent advice from both Kev and pgpoultry.

We have 3 dogs. One miniature poodle, one mixed Corgi X and a Bernese Mountain Dog. All three required minimal chicken training. We raised a Great Pyr and she needed professional one-on-one training to break her of her playfulness with them, and to listen to commands. Once she learned that she had to listen to our commands, the playing could be stopped. NO and DROP IT, was all it took in the end. She never tried to kill them to eat, and only ended up killing one silkie when she was 3 months old, but there were close calls where she would bowl through the chickens, and once she picked up a duck by it's head and brought it to us.

We have been so fortunate with Henry though. He likes to chase the rabbits but the poultry are boring.




Only thing he appears interested in with regards to the chickens is their food. He is obsessed with their food....




Believe or not the last one is my best protector. He's taken down a stray dog and chased a raccoon off. I tell him he killed it dead just so he knows he did good

I don't mean to sound braggy.. I am just really proud of my dogs and their behaviour. Koda above is very dog aggressive (new dogs). I am not a perfect dog owner, but when it comes to my poultry I mean business. If my dog hurts or kills a chicken, they are going to rehab. No kidding.. I sent Clementine to rehab!


Once she came back and was AMAZING, we got her two gifts...


She really needed a larger livestock to work with. We gave her a job, so boredom was not her slave any more.

 

[PsycoPeep]

Aww, cute pics!

 

[Kassaundra]

6 weeks 2 days


Fancy looks more like he mom every day


I know she isn't a NN, but her mom is, and I just love how her color is developing


Some of the dark skinned ones still hanging on to those white feathers


I keep wondering what this ones pattern will turn out to be






Really hoping this blue is a girl, but thinking it is a lost cause

 

[spunkychickenmomma]

6 weeks 2 days


Fancy looks more like he mom every day


I know she isn't a NN, but her mom is, and I just love how her color is developing


Some of the dark skinned ones still hanging on to those white feathers


I keep wondering what this ones pattern will turn out to be






Really hoping this blue is a girl, but thinking it is a lost cause

Gorgeous Kass!