Naked Neck/Turken Thread

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Kev said:
Always happy to help!

What Dominant White does is change black pigments to white while leaving red/gold colors unaffected(mostly). The best example are Gold Laced and Buff Laced Polish- the only difference between them is the GL has DW added. Otherwise all their color and pattern genes are "exactly the same".

DW leaves red/gold pigments largely untouched but it can give the illusion of being a shade lighter as it removes the natural microscopic deposits of black pigments on the gold areas(this is why buff laced looks softer, lighter than gold laceds) so this would be good for goal of a blond colored chickens. In fact some lines in solid buff breeds carry it for this reason- to lighten and also to hide any black leak.

DW is a simple autosomal dominant. It should be relatively easy to identify Alohas carrying it as most would lack any black on them. however I can imagine there would be some birds you would be hard pressed to tell if it were a splashy bird with DW or very splashy despite not having DW and happens not to show any or very little black....
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Kev, is dominant white a different gene from what causes "all white" chickens? I seem to think I remember hearing that "white could randomly pop up for generations" mentioned in a few sources. Obviously, I did not want to have random "all white" chickens popping up for all eternity, which is why I would just avoid solid white chickens.

But that sounds like something a sneaky recessive gene would do. Is there also a recessive white?
 
Kev said:
To be clear, is this hen a descendant from buff rock outcross?

Has she been bred to a black rooster? Does her ground color seem to be a shade lighter than her buff siblings? I ask as I wonder if she might have Dominant White- remember some buff lines can have DW..... crossing with a black chicken(even a barred rock would do- they're solid black chickens with barring added, same concept as mottleds are black chickens with mottle added) would prove if she has DW or not.... because any bird with DW bred with a homozygous black chicken will result in either half or 100% white chicks growing up into either solid white or white with buff leaky hens and red pyle looking roosters.
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This hen's grandfather was Buff Rock. FI was Buff Rock Roo x Colorful Mottled Aloha - which gave me some nice sized solid Buff hens. Those were bred to a spotty Aloha rooster. (Would have to look at pics to see what his color was, but most are red/white or red/black/white.)

Chicks from that F2 cross (3/4 Aloha, 1/4 Buff Rock) would either be: a) Solid buff, maybe with a stray white feather tip, or, b) Mottled, brown and white, or brown/black white.

Never would the spots "make the jump" onto the Buff body color despite whatever the Punnett Square model would say.

Except this one time.

I wasn't able to do any more "controlled" hatching experiments last year with that hen, because the hens started eating eggs at my friend's house, while he was gone all day. Now his situation will be changing, and hopefully if he can collect the eggs quickly they might break the habit? Or at least maybe he'll get a few before they get to them! LOL. I had a "sniffles" outbreak here, last Spring, so I didn't want to bring anybody to my house! So I kept them all up at his where they were safe. Safely eating every egg they laid, unfortunately!!! Then I culled my adults over the summer and started over with all "fresh" babies to clean up my property. Found a good pet home on acreage for the adults that I culled, a nice family with kids and llamas.
 
Here are my 4 NN chickies! I got them from a friend who got them from some guy she knows. She told me they are Turken/white EE (or maybe Ameraucana) mixes. They're in the brooder with my 2 other chicks I hatched out (cream legbar pullet & blr wyandotte/blue orp mix).

So tell me, what do you think? You'll probably need to click the pics to enlarge them. I think they favor the Turken parent (the hen) rather than the EE parent (the roo). I'm open to any comments!








Here's the only 1 out of the 4 chicks that has any color (hard to get the lil bugger to hold still):






This is the largest of the 3 all-white chicks:






Here are the 2 smaller all-white chicks:






 
I'm really curious how the plumage of the colored NN chick will turn out!
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