Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[chickengr]

Hi There everyone,
sorry to cut in on this thread but I have a few questions about the Naked Neck Turken.
Question 1: I've read where they are also called Transylvanian Naked Necks, I've been trying to figure out which egg color they lay? do they lay your average brown egg or the tinted pink-like? I've been told that they do both and am quite confused because the internet say otherwise that they lay the average brown egg.
Question 2: what size are Turken eggs? there are so many answers floating around that I never know which one is true.
Question 2: How big are Turkens? someone said there's got to about 8 pounds and another said theirs were 7 in a half to six pounds. That being said I couldn't really get a definite answer and so I was hoping someone could tell me.
I am hoping to purchase some turken chicks early spring and so I was wanting to learn as much as I can, I love strange and awkward breeds that stand out and this is one of the breeds that caught my attention, immediately I was drawn to them.

transylvanian naked necks should be a name for pure naked necks. they are big birds that lay big tinted eggs. but they are hard to find.

most of us have mixed NNs. that's why we have different sizes birds, different eggs, etc. they might have been crossed with any other breed. but all of them are cute and their personality differ from other breeds. they are talkative, bossy in a gentle way and you can spend hours watching them. they get along well with the other breeds.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote:
What he said!

As with all chickens purported to be of a given breed, there is variability depending on the source and what traits have been selected for. I can speak to mine, that I got from Ideal Hatchery. They are extremely friendly and sweet, pretty big (though I find that my boys are a lot bigger than my girls), lay varied light brown eggs (not quite as pale tinted as, for example, the eggs of the Specked Sussex I used to have) - it's the bloom that makes them pink/purple looking, and some of mine sometimes look like that. I'm getting some from Dunlap Hatchery this spring, it will be interesting to see what those are like.

I adore them.

- Ant Farm

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Hi There everyone,
sorry to cut in on this thread but I have a few questions about the Naked Neck Turken.
Question 1: I've read where they are also called Transylvanian Naked Necks, I've been trying to figure out which egg color they lay? do they lay your average brown egg or the tinted pink-like? I've been told that they do both and am quite confused because the internet say otherwise that they lay the average brown egg.
Question 2: what size are Turken eggs? there are so many answers floating around that I never know which one is true.
Question 2: How big are Turkens? someone said there's got to about 8 pounds and another said theirs were 7 in a half to six pounds. That being said I couldn't really get a definite answer and so I was hoping someone could tell me.
I am hoping to purchase some turken chicks early spring and so I was wanting to learn as much as I can, I love strange and awkward breeds that stand out and this is one of the breeds that caught my attention, immediately I was drawn to them.

Oh, and you're not cutting in!!!!

Welcome!

- Ant Farm

 

[ChiknKrazy]

transylvanian naked necks should be a name for pure naked necks. they are big birds that lay big tinted eggs. but they are hard to find.

most of us have mixed NNs. that's why we have different sizes birds, different eggs, etc. they might have been crossed with any other breed. but all of them are cute and their personality differ from other breeds. they are talkative, bossy in a gentle way and you can spend hours watching them. they get along well with the other breeds.

Thanks chickengr I appreciate you getting back to me. I'm looking into purchasing some Naked Neck Turkens from Cackle Hatchery this spring. I fell in love with this breed and I think that they are awesome looking.

 

[ChiknKrazy]

What he said! 



As with all chickens purported to be of a given breed, there is variability depending on the source and what traits have been selected for. I can speak to mine, that I got from Ideal Hatchery. They are extremely friendly and sweet, pretty big (though I find that my boys are a lot bigger than my girls), lay varied light brown eggs (not quite as pale tinted as, for example, the eggs of the Specked Sussex I used to have) - it's the bloom that makes them pink/purple looking, and some of mine sometimes look like that. I'm getting some from Dunlap Hatchery this spring, it will be interesting to see what those are like. 

I adore them. 

- Ant Farm

Thanks Fire Ant Farm,
I love the Naked Neck Turken! Super awesome looking bird. I'm going to be purchasing some in the spring through Cackle Hatchery and I'll post pictures. I was hoping to order Naked Neck Turkens along with some Speckled Sussex. I wouldn't ever mix them because I want both lines to stay pure

 

[Kassaundra]

Thanks Fire Ant Farm,
I love the Naked Neck Turken! Super awesome looking bird. I'm going to be purchasing some in the spring through Cackle Hatchery and I'll post pictures. I was hoping to order Naked Neck Turkens along with some Speckled Sussex. I wouldn't ever mix them because I want both lines to stay pure

Welcome. Getting NN from a hatchery they will likely lay good sized light brown eggs. The size of the birds will likely be medium large. The naked neck trait is easy to breed into many other birds since it is straight forward easy genetics, you see it the chicken carries it, you don't see it the chicken doesn't have it. So the variety of answers you have received and will continue to get comes from mixing NN w/ many, many other chicken breeds to get all kinds of results, as others have answered, you won't get this kind of "fancy" genetics w/ the hatchery NN they will be much more straight forward. Most everyone ............................. who am I kidding this is the NN thread ............................ we all on this thread believe every chicken breed can be made better by adding some NN to it!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

 

[DesertChic]

Welcome. Getting NN from a hatchery they will likely lay good sized light brown eggs. The size of the birds will likely be medium large. The naked neck trait is easy to breed into many other birds since it is straight forward easy genetics, you see it the chicken carries it, you don't see it the chicken doesn't have it. So the variety of answers you have received and will continue to get comes from mixing NN w/ many, many other chicken breeds to get all kinds of results, as others have answered, you won't get this kind of "fancy" genetics w/ the hatchery NN they will be much more straight forward. Most everyone ............................. who am I kidding this is the NN thread ............................ we all on this thread believe every chicken breed can be made better by adding some NN to it!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Totally true!

 

[Kev]

@Kev - quick down color question.

I want to hatch eggs from the Naked Neck girls in with Snape (black downed as baby) in the same batch as the GNH girls with Tank. I think I'm ok with just knowing the sire/coop the chicks came from (not individual parings with this group). Will all of Snape's babies be likely to have black down? (Vs. Tank's babies being yellow?) It would make sorting the chicks easier...

I think you remember them (which amazes me!), but for the sake of the discussion:

Snape (he's in with three nearly black girls, three buff girls, and one lone hatchery New Hampshire):
As a chick (earliest I found was 3 weeks, but in my notes, easy on he had white bits on face and wing):


At 20 weeks:



Tank (in with the GNHs - if they ever start laying!!!)
At 2.5 weeks (standing on edge of the metal bowl, he was totally yellow as a baby) - Snape is actually the black chick to the left):


As adult:


- Ant Farm

Good question. If Snape is pure for 'black' then all of his chicks will be black downed. If he is not pure for black, then half of the chicks with the buffs and NH will come out light downed.

btw- he is very likely not pure for rose comb, so only half of the chicks will be rose combed. If you hatch the eggs together and there's a light downed chick with a rose comb, you know it's his and he is not 'pure for black'. difference between rose vs single comb are visible right at hatch.

Tank and GNH chicks most likely will be pretty uniform in color. All will have the large bowties/bibs. Any light down with tiny bowtie or clean necked would be Snape's.

I'd say you probably would figure which pen most of the chicks came from, maybe even all.. but also possibly a couple mystery chicks if Snape proves not to be pure for black... light downed chicks with large bibs and single comb could look awful lot like Tank's chicks.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote: Absolutely!

Quote: Thanks! This helps a lot. I will have to think of whether to risk it... I'm tempted to, as there's such a mix anyway, and Tank will be with those girls at least until the S&G chick or his daughters are ready to keep him company (at which time the GNH will go with one of the GNH roosters). So far, no issues with keeping all three GNH boys (though Joe Black has an obnoxious crow at 4:30), so if their good behavior holds, I'll put the other one or two with S&G pullets. I already have 8 boys - not sure I can keep many of the S&G/Dunlap boys, I'll have to see how they grow out... I'm going to keep good records for the S&G/Dunlap chicks - I have high hopes, but I am taking nothing for granted.

(I keep plotting and planning - I was just moving the lumber around for making another tractor/breeding pen!)

Thanks again for the quick answer, @Kev . I guess this will be a "test hatch" to see what Snape's background is. Once they are laying well again, I'm actually considering taking a few of the pullets I don't want babies from and putting them in the chicken hospital (aka spa) for a little while while I collect eggs. (New Hampshire and maybe Sweetie, because she lays those bizarre eggs.) Reintegration hasn't been too hard in the past with injuries, so that may be the best idea.

Question for you guys - if you are breeding for naked neck features and you get fully feathered chicks in the mix, and you plan to cull them, how many cull right away (as chicks) vs. keep and feed and then cull for the freezer? I know I'll have at least a few of those, and I'll want to cull hard already for my goals, esp. as I have limited space, so I'm considering options... (If I had unlimited space, I could "cull" to a non-breeding flock, but alas, I don't...)

- Ant Farm

 

[GabrielBane]

Watching these two feather out is keeping me on my toes!