Naked Neck/Turken Thread

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Okay Kassaundra, what's dubia?
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I found my little black bantam frizzle (from DDD) sitting on two eggs today. I couldn't take it anymore...didn't have the heart to throw her off the nest and take her eggs. ..so instead I ran up to the house, grabbed three more and put them under her. She happily tucked them under her. I guess in 21 days we'll have some new little bantam Naked Necks running around!

Congratulations ! You did it !

 

[Kev]

Okay a couple more questions

sorry, but I really don't get chicken genetics well.

Is this boy blue, or blue barred, or something else

agree he looks blue barred.

If he is the boy I keep instead of the white and black I can expect complete bare necks out of 50% of the pairing w/ the red complete bare neck and 25% of any pairing w/ another bow tie, and none from any non NN (those would either not have nn at all or a bow tie)

yes, 50% bare necks with the red girl. yep 25% him with any big bow ties. yep, big bow tie or no naked neck(aka culls... ) with non NN.

Will I get more color diversity from his offspring then the white and black? (I really like diversity)

hard to tell just how much diversity... if he is not pure for what makes his body solid black, then yes a very wide range of colors- in this scenario will get black, blue, barred, blue barred and if he is not pure for silver gene, can get b/w like the bare neck b/w boy, reds like the girl, red barred....also unusual color combos such as blue tailed red/buff, blue tailed with barring plus "delaware"- b/w body with barred tail. the chicks will have both rose and single combs. he does not seem to be pure for barring, so half of the chicks will be barred, others not. if he is pure for the silver gene, there will be no reds. only blues, blacks with and without barring.. maybe some black and white birds. but if he is pure for "black", then all chicks will be black, blue, blue barred or barred and when they are mature, some will show either white or brown 'lacing' on them also the pyle zones probably will be white or red on roosters.

His flock will be other NN girls and EE girls, would he add some blue to the offspring w/ the EE's?

Thanks for all your genetics help.

No problem at all, very happy to see people wanting to learn and experiment. He will add blue and also solid/mostly black to the EE. but from your album, there's already blue in your EE girls. they're the ones with grey tails and details on neck/body and one girl seems possibly a splash- the one with white on her neck, assume her tail is blue/white also. Navas blues and splash are due to the blue gene on a genetically solid black chicken. blue gene has a big effect on black pigments but has a very minimum effect on gold series pigments. so your blue ee only have the blue color on the tails, necks and anywhere it would have been black if it were not for the blue gene being present. compare these with the ee with 'normal' black details on body. your blue barred rooster is genetically a solid black chicken, with both blue and barring genes 'added on top' if it makes sense. he will throw nearly solid black and blue with the EE, and splash too, if any of the EE girls happen to have blue or splash. he has a rose comb so some of the ee crosses will have walnut combs. they';re genetically a combination of rose and pea.

 

[queenchick16]

agree he looks blue barred.
yes, 50% bare necks with the red girl. yep 25% him with any big bow ties. yep, big bow tie or no naked neck(aka culls...

) with non NN.
hard to tell just how much diversity... if he is not pure for what makes his body solid black, then yes a very wide range of colors- in this scenario will get black, blue, barred, blue barred and if he is not pure for silver gene, can get b/w like the bare neck b/w boy, reds like the girl, red barred....also unusual color combos such as blue tailed red/buff, blue tailed with barring plus "delaware"- b/w body with barred tail. the chicks will have both rose and single combs. he does not seem to be pure for barring, so half of the chicks will be barred, others not.
if he is pure for the silver gene, there will be no reds. only blues, blacks with and without barring.. maybe some black and white birds.
but if he is pure for "black", then all chicks will be black, blue, blue barred or barred and when they are mature, some will show either white or brown 'lacing' on them also the pyle zones probably will be white or red on roosters.
No problem at all, very happy to see people wanting to learn and experiment. He will add blue and also solid/mostly black to the EE. but from your album, there's already blue in your EE girls. they're the ones with grey tails and details on neck/body and one girl seems possibly a splash- the one with white on her neck, assume her tail is blue/white also.
Navas blues and splash are due to the blue gene on a genetically solid black chicken. blue gene has a big effect on black pigments but has a very minimum effect on gold series pigments. so your blue ee only have the blue color on the tails, necks and anywhere it would have been black if it were not for the blue gene being present. compare these with the ee with 'normal' black details on body.
your blue barred rooster is genetically a solid black chicken, with both blue and barring genes 'added on top' if it makes sense. he will throw nearly solid black and blue with the EE, and splash too, if any of the EE girls happen to have blue or splash.
he has a rose comb so some of the ee crosses will have walnut combs. they';re genetically a combination of rose and pea.

I think it would have been a lot more fun in Genetics class in school if I had to do crosses with chickens then with fruit flies . Boy did that blue agar stink after several days

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

Congratulations  !    You did it !

Came home to find her off the nest...okay, she needed a break. Checked on her 10 mins. later and she was on the nest...just not hers.

Only time will tell.

 

[Kassaundra]

agree he looks blue barred.
yes, 50% bare necks with the red girl. yep 25% him with any big bow ties. yep, big bow tie or no naked neck(aka culls...

) with non NN.
hard to tell just how much diversity... if he is not pure for what makes his body solid black, then yes a very wide range of colors- in this scenario will get black, blue, barred, blue barred and if he is not pure for silver gene, can get b/w like the bare neck b/w boy, reds like the girl, red barred....also unusual color combos such as blue tailed red/buff, blue tailed with barring plus "delaware"- b/w body with barred tail. the chicks will have both rose and single combs. he does not seem to be pure for barring, so half of the chicks will be barred, others not.
if he is pure for the silver gene, there will be no reds. only blues, blacks with and without barring.. maybe some black and white birds.
but if he is pure for "black", then all chicks will be black, blue, blue barred or barred and when they are mature, some will show either white or brown 'lacing' on them also the pyle zones probably will be white or red on roosters.
No problem at all, very happy to see people wanting to learn and experiment. He will add blue and also solid/mostly black to the EE. but from your album, there's already blue in your EE girls. they're the ones with grey tails and details on neck/body and one girl seems possibly a splash- the one with white on her neck, assume her tail is blue/white also.
Navas blues and splash are due to the blue gene on a genetically solid black chicken. blue gene has a big effect on black pigments but has a very minimum effect on gold series pigments. so your blue ee only have the blue color on the tails, necks and anywhere it would have been black if it were not for the blue gene being present. compare these with the ee with 'normal' black details on body.
your blue barred rooster is genetically a solid black chicken, with both blue and barring genes 'added on top' if it makes sense. he will throw nearly solid black and blue with the EE, and splash too, if any of the EE girls happen to have blue or splash.
he has a rose comb so some of the ee crosses will have walnut combs. they';re genetically a combination of rose and pea.

Thanks for all the info. I decided to keep the blue barred his name is now Shakespear (as in The Bard)

 

[Kev]

Cute, naming barred bird after the Bard.

I think it would have been a lot more fun in Genetics class in school if I had to do crosses with chickens then with fruit flies . Boy did that blue agar stink after several days

Yeah that would have been much more fun.... naked neck would be one of the easiest genes to work with in class..

 

[Kev]

Congratulations  !    You did it !

Came home to find her off the nest...okay, she needed a break. Checked on her 10 mins. later and she was on the nest...just not hers.

Only time will tell.

move her to right nestbox. then screen her off. that will also prevent other laying hens from bothering her. take out once, twice a day for potty breaks.

common problem in setups with rows of identical nest boxes. if she will accept an move to isolated cage, will be so much easier not having to take out for potty breaks but not all hens will.

 

[AreYouLoved]

I am looking to buy Turken Naked Neck bantams not the large size.
Mail order or local..

Samantha,
Purcell, OK

 

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Post on the buy sell page. They accept WANTED posts also. The bantams are not easy to come by in quantities.

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi Samantha! I have Naked Neck bantams (they look like Naked Neck Cochins), but the girls are all broody right now.
I'll have eggs available as soon as they are laying again.