Nevadans?

[SunnyDawn]

the empty cartons she gives me are all "cage free" too. what can you do?

she'll be fine but I'm sure it's hard to let those babies go.

IDK. Some people prefer to remain ignorant on these issues and I have no idea how to educate someone that doesn't want to be educated.

Thanks for the sympathy. I know she'll be fine. She's already fallen in love with them and they are great folks. They will take good care of her.

I have had this problem for the last few years and someone told me to sprinkle some epson salt into the hole before planting the plant and it made so much more of a difference this year. My cherry tomatoes grew larger (the fruit not plant, before the tomatoes were like little pebbles) and they produced so much fruit that I was giving them away to my friends. I haven't been able to grow a chili pepper plant ever and this year I did the same, a small hand full of epson salt during planting and I got about 20+ peppers from one plant and they were good size peppers too. So next year try some epson salt during planting, it has worked with my flowering plants as well and my roses look so much healthier.

I'm going to have to try that. I have had good luck with roses but haven't planted any here, in the new house, yet. We do have hardpan just 6" down so hopefully this will help some. We need some rain so I can till the soil to prep for spring planting. I have a bunch of bags of compost and chicken manure to add in but the soil is just too hard to do it now.

11am is good, though where is it? I`ve never heard of it.

I was wondering where it is, too.

It's at 6th and Wells just a block south of I-80. Very close to the poultry show. The address is 605 North Wells Ave. It's on the west side of Wells. As you're coming down Wells, from the show, you'll see a Denny's on the left just after passing under 80. Look to your right and you will see the Carrows.

The soil here in Fernley is so strange. In an apartment some years ago I had beach like sandy soil, Very loose and my plants grew well. My neighbors drained their pool every few days and flooded my yard so all the blossoms fell off (too much water).
At my mothers house her soil was like clay (too hard) the plants wouldn't grow well as the roots had a hard time spreading and we got almost no produce.
I have since bought a house almost 2 years now in Jan and my soil here is a bit hard so I added some garden soil (2 50Lb bags) and some Epsom salt for each plant. This fall after ripping everything out I plan on turning some rabbit manure along with the hay that was mixed in with the droppings with hopes that it will fertilize the soil and loosen it up. I am hopeful next year to grow some large tomatoes as my family really likes them and maybe try some Zucchini. I did try this once before and the plants grew very large but we didn't even get one zucchini the whole year.
This did depress us as we do like zucchini bread, Maybe next year.
Good luck to you and your garden.

I hear ya. I love zucchini bread. I used to have a recipe for a wholewheat zucchini-pineapple bread made with honey instead of sugar. Took me forever to get that recipe just right but when I got married my room-mate took my recipes! I really need to get a good recipe to start with and work at it again til I get the same results. I really miss that bread. I'm not normally into healthy recipes but this was super tasty! Especially with cream cheese. Mmmmmm


What a gorgeous day today!!! I was out feeding and watering animals this morning and there is not a cloud in the sky! It was already warm at 8:15! Hard to believe that a storm is moving in and we'll have snow tomorrow night. Right now it feels like perfection. We need the precip though so I'm not complaining.

 

[americanvalkyrie]

I was wondering where it is, too.

We could walk to it from the poultry show. Go out the doors of the poultry show, get on the sidewalk, walk south under the freeway and another block.

 

[Rural Chic]

Quote: I have never had a problem with growing roses. I even had one years ago (when I was married and living in southern California outside Barstow on an army base) where my (now X) husband's Doberman (warlock breed) literally ate the entire bush down to the nub. I ripped it out of the ground and smacked him with the root side (the dog not the husband although if I had known then what I know now I would have hit him with it too), anyway after cooling down I replanted it in a new location away from the dog and it did just fine.
I now have 6 in my back yard and in the spring I plan on 3-6 more. They need lots of water at least once a day and before planting dig the hole deeper and wider than the roots and add some garden or planting soil to the hole a bit of Epsom salt and the next time I plant I am also going to add some egg shells. (I heard that was helpful too) Also to keep the sun from burning the leaves and to fortify the plant some cut up a banana and add almost to the top of the hole around the rose plant. This adds potassium and has helped mine tremendously.

As for the zucchini bread recipe.. try allrecipes.com, I have found allot of wonderful recipes there and have modified a few from there for my own books. As for zucchini bread with cream cheese I have to agree... Mmmmmmm!

 

[Rural Chic]

OK, I have a very important question... Can you give a chicken a bath? What soap do you use for bathing chickens, geese, and ducks? Any additional details would be good.
How do you bathe chickens??? They don't like water do they? Mine are not for show so is it even necessary to bathe them?

My goslings made a mess with their feed and water and decided to roll in it I think, anyway I filled the tub and let them swim. One likes to dive repeatedly before grooming the other would rather just float and wasn't to keen for me to hand lap water over his/her back and neck etc. After a good 15 min or so soak I towel dried them then, holding the hair dryer away from them, and rubbing gently their down got them both dry. The first time I turned the hair dryer on after a swim they backed into the corner, this time they were allot braver and almost went to sleep. Sorry I forgot to take pics as I was having so much fun with them. I even forgot to take pics of them swimming again, but I have to say that they are 3 weeks old and are large enough that with the tub half full they can still stand. My baby chickens are barley double in size and the goslings have grown like 4-6 times in size. Anyway should I do anything different for the goslings?

 

[SunnyDawn]

We could walk to it from the poultry show. Go out the doors of the poultry show, get on the sidewalk, walk south under the freeway and another block.

Said the young lady with the healthy back... I'm afraid this old lady will be driving the short distance to Carrows.

I have never had a problem with growing roses. I even had one years ago (when I was married and living in southern California outside Barstow on an army base) where my (now X) husband's Doberman (warlock breed) literally ate the entire bush down to the nub. I ripped it out of the ground and smacked him with the root side (the dog not the husband although if I had known then what I know now I would have hit him with it too), anyway after cooling down I replanted it in a new location away from the dog and it did just fine.
I now have 6 in my back yard and in the spring I plan on 3-6 more. They need lots of water at least once a day and before planting dig the hole deeper and wider than the roots and add some garden or planting soil to the hole a bit of Epsom salt and the next time I plant I am also going to add some egg shells. (I heard that was helpful too) Also to keep the sun from burning the leaves and to fortify the plant some cut up a banana and add almost to the top of the hole around the rose plant. This adds potassium and has helped mine tremendously.

As for the zucchini bread recipe.. try allrecipes.com, I have found allot of wonderful recipes there and have modified a few from there for my own books. As for zucchini bread with cream cheese I have to agree... Mmmmmmm!

Haha! That is a very funny story. Especially the crack about the ex. I've always had roses too. At our house in CA we had over 70 rose bushes. My husband was freaking out every time another rose catalog came or we passed rose bushes at the nursery. lol I had them when we lived close to downtown Reno too. The ones in the front yard did very well but the chickens kept eating the ones in the backyard. Apparently rose leaves are a delicacy to chickens.

They don't need as much water as most people think though. They do well with less watering if you water them slowly and deeply (like on a drip system). I had better luck with my roses once I quit watering them so often. They also hate to be crowded. They need air movement to thrive. I could give classes on rose rearing. It has been a passion of mine for almost 40 years now.

I've tried quite a few of the recipes on allrecipes.com. I haven't tried one that came close to my old recipe yet but I haven't gotten super serious yet about nailing it down either. Always so much to do around here that takes precedence.

OK, I have a very important question... Can you give a chicken a bath? What soap do you use for bathing chickens, geese, and ducks? Any additional details would be good.
How do you bathe chickens??? They don't like water do they? Mine are not for show so is it even necessary to bathe them?

My goslings made a mess with their feed and water and decided to roll in it I think, anyway I filled the tub and let them swim. One likes to dive repeatedly before grooming the other would rather just float and wasn't to keen for me to hand lap water over his/her back and neck etc. After a good 15 min or so soak I towel dried them then, holding the hair dryer away from them, and rubbing gently their down got them both dry. The first time I turned the hair dryer on after a swim they backed into the corner, this time they were allot braver and almost went to sleep. Sorry I forgot to take pics as I was having so much fun with them. I even forgot to take pics of them swimming again, but I have to say that they are 3 weeks old and are large enough that with the tub half full they can still stand. My baby chickens are barley double in size and the goslings have grown like 4-6 times in size. Anyway should I do anything different for the goslings?

Yes. Use 2-3 drops of dawn dishwashing liquid in a sink filled with warm water. They do not need to be washed under normal circumstances but I have had to wash my chicks a few times because they love to play in their mash and fling it everywhere. Then it dries and gets stuck to their down. Any cleanser that has degreaser in it will remove the protective oils on the feathers of waterfowl so just keep them out of deeper water til the protective coating on the feathers has returned. I believe I read that 3 days should do it but there are folks on here with waterfowl that can tell you for sure how long to wait.

 

[SunnyDawn]

Speaking of baking. I'm getting ready to start the holiday baking, well at least the dough that freezes well, and I was wondering if anyone was interested in a cookie exchange this year? I usually have 1 every year but last year was crazy so we skipped it. Not sure if anyone wants to drive up here during winter (or nearly winter) though.

I guess we could do a Saturday daytime exchange so the driving conditions would be better?

Speak up if you're interested. When I mentioned an end-of-season BBQ here only 1 person said they thought it was a great idea. I'm afraid we need more folks to show interest if you'd like to have the exchange. Let me know yea or nay. Missy I will be making my almond lace cookies so there will be at least 1 cookie here that is gluten free. Plus I can make meringues which are also gluten free.

Usually everyone brings 3 types of cookies, at least 1 dozen of each kind. We then take the total number of cookies and divide them by the number of folks there. This will tell us how many treats each person can take with them. Yes you can nibble some while you are there but there are only so many you can try in one night before you get tired of sweets so the main goal is to get a variety of cookies for gift giving. I give out cookies to kids and to Steve's work so the variety is appreciated.

So... who's in?

 

[Rural Chic]

Haha! That is a very funny story. Especially the crack about the ex. I've always had roses too. At our house in CA we had over 70 rose bushes. My husband was freaking out every time another rose catalog came or we passed rose bushes at the nursery. lol I had them when we lived close to downtown Reno too. The ones in the front yard did very well but the chickens kept eating the ones in the backyard. Apparently rose leaves are a delicacy to chickens.

They don't need as much water as most people think though. They do well with less watering if you water them slowly and deeply (like on a drip system). I had better luck with my roses once I quit watering them so often. They also hate to be crowded. They need air movement to thrive. I could give classes on rose rearing. It has been a passion of mine for almost 40 years now.

I've tried quite a few of the recipes on allrecipes.com. I haven't tried one that came close to my old recipe yet but I haven't gotten super serious yet about nailing it down either. Always so much to do around here that takes precedence.
Yes. Use 2-3 drops of dawn dishwashing liquid in a sink filled with warm water. They do not need to be washed under normal circumstances but I have had to wash my chicks a few times because they love to play in their mash and fling it everywhere. Then it dries and gets stuck to their down. Any cleanser that has degreaser in it will remove the protective oils on the feathers of waterfowl so just keep them out of deeper water til the protective coating on the feathers has returned. I believe I read that 3 days should do it but there are folks on here with waterfowl that can tell you for sure how long to wait.

In regards to roses and chickens, I thought I read somewhere on here that chickens don't like to eat roses or rose bushes to be precise...I thought about planting one inside the run but maybe now it will be on the outside but still close enough to keep it looking pretty. (not sure if they appreciate pretty or not but I do!

Watering roses... I find that if I build a well around the base about the 2 feet across and 6-8 inches deep, depending on the size of the bush, and water once a day (evening after the heat) they do very well. I just fill the wells and depending on how fast they empty depends on if they get filled again before I go back in... if it is really hot that day they all get a second drink. Over the cooler months they get watered maybe 1 every 2 weeks to 1 a month.

Zucchini Bread recipe... you will have to experiment till you get it the way you want it and then let us all know what you did... It sounded really good when you described it.

Bath water for backyard birds (I'm lumping them all together): Thanks for the quantity of dish-washing liquid to use... I would have just squirted some and and started washing...

I can just see my flock running around with wads of bubbles attached to their feathers and squawking their unhappiness to me. Of course this is all taking place in my head right now and in there it is summer time and they are all running around the back yard patio squawking that I used too much soap. They will really be unhappy when i have to hose the wads of bubble off too.
This way I have been saved the squawking reprimand.

 

[SunnyDawn]

In regards to roses and chickens, I thought I read somewhere on here that chickens don't like to eat roses or rose bushes to be precise...I thought about planting one inside the run but maybe now it will be on the outside but still close enough to keep it looking pretty. (not sure if they appreciate pretty or not but I do!

Watering roses... I find that if I build a well around the base about the 2 feet across and 6-8 inches deep, depending on the size of the bush, and water once a day (evening after the heat) they do very well. I just fill the wells and depending on how fast they empty depends on if they get filled again before I go back in... if it is really hot that day they all get a second drink. Over the cooler months they get watered maybe 1 every 2 weeks to 1 a month.

Zucchini Bread recipe... you will have to experiment till you get it the way you want it and then let us all know what you did... It sounded really good when you described it.

Bath water for backyard birds (I'm lumping them all together): Thanks for the quantity of dish-washing liquid to use... I would have just squirted some and and started washing...

I can just see my flock running around with wads of bubbles attached to their feathers and squawking their unhappiness to me. Of course this is all taking place in my head right now and in there it is summer time and they are all running around the back yard patio squawking that I used too much soap. They will really be unhappy when i have to hose the wads of bubble off too.
This way I have been saved the squawking reprimand.

Now I am picturing soapy chickens running everywhere! haha

Yes I'll let you know if I find a winning recipe for the zucchini fruit bread.

With the drip system I use a well as well (haha no pun intended) but only water once every 2 weeks unless it is very hot and dry. Even then I never water more than twice a week. With my cruddy back I have to do a lot of things differently however. I probably wouldn't care if the back weren't an issue. I read about the low water method from the Berkeley Ag center. It's good you don't water from above. Wet leaves promote leaf molds.

You can ask folks on here about chickens and roses. It makes sense that they wouldn't eat them due to the thorns but that doesn't seem to faze them a bit. I've visited many a BYCer with the tell-tale naked rose bush from about 2&1/2 feet down. It always makes me laugh to see the poor naked roses with only a green top hat.

 

[Rural Chic]

Now I am picturing soapy chickens running everywhere! haha

Yes I'll let you know if I find a winning recipe for the zucchini fruit bread.

With the drip system I use a well as well (haha no pun intended) but only water once every 2 weeks unless it is very hot and dry. Even then I never water more than twice a week. With my cruddy back I have to do a lot of things differently however. I probably wouldn't care if the back weren't an issue. I read about the low water method from the Berkeley Ag center. It's good you don't water from above. Wet leaves promote leaf molds.

You can ask folks on here about chickens and roses. It makes sense that they wouldn't eat them due to the thorns but that doesn't seem to faze them a bit. I've visited many a BYCer with the tell-tale naked rose bush from about 2&1/2 feet down. It always makes me laugh to see the poor naked roses with only a green top hat.

I had soapy chickens running everywhere in mind when I wrote that...

Roses: I only shower the rose plant from the top if we have had allot of wind and the dust settles on the leaves. This way it is like a rain shower and the dirt is washed away but never during the time the sun shines on them. Wouldn't want to burn the leaves... I have never seen leaf mold on any of my plants but then I only use the shower setting and let it fall from above so no water on the undersides of the leaves.
Since you have had chickens longer than I have... 2 months... I will go with your knowledge and keep the rose bushes on the outside of the run. Anything that grows through the fence they can have the rest is mine!
I wonder what plants to put around the water pond (bath for geese) that I plan on installing in the spring. Do you know what plants are not poisonous to geese that they wont eat? Oh and that love to grow near water?

 

[americanvalkyrie]

Speaking of baking. I'm getting ready to start the holiday baking, well at least the dough that freezes well, and I was wondering if anyone was interested in a cookie exchange this year? I usually have 1 every year but last year was crazy so we skipped it. Not sure if anyone wants to drive up here during winter (or nearly winter) though.

I guess we could do a Saturday daytime exchange so the driving conditions would be better?

Speak up if you're interested. When I mentioned an end-of-season BBQ here only 1 person said they thought it was a great idea. I'm afraid we need more folks to show interest if you'd like to have the exchange. Let me know yea or nay. Missy I will be making my almond lace cookies so there will be at least 1 cookie here that is gluten free. Plus I can make meringues which are also gluten free.

Usually everyone brings 3 types of cookies, at least 1 dozen of each kind. We then take the total number of cookies and divide them by the number of folks there. This will tell us how many treats each person can take with them. Yes you can nibble some while you are there but there are only so many you can try in one night before you get tired of sweets so the main goal is to get a variety of cookies for gift giving. I give out cookies to kids and to Steve's work so the variety is appreciated.

So... who's in?

That sounds like a lot of fun! I'm going to say "yes" with the chance that I might not make it. Russ is supposed to go to Ireland for business in the next month (or so). Might be end of November/beginning of December, might be later. They usually don't make up their minds until a week or so before they send him.