Nevadans?

re: definitions of vegan vs. vegetarian... I'm a died-in-the-wool carnivore and didn't know there was a distinction between the two terms. I knew there was an ovo-lacto something. I shall be more careful in my generic categorization. I really thought vegan and vegetarian were interchangeable.
 
re: definitions of vegan vs. vegetarian... I'm a died-in-the-wool carnivore and didn't know there was a distinction between the two terms. I knew there was an ovo-lacto something. I shall be more careful in my generic categorization. I really thought vegan and vegetarian were interchangeable.

Vegetarians still eat eggs and cheese. Vegans wont eat anything animal oriented at all.
 
May I ask why 2 buckets? Is it a wick system?

Yes, the bottom bucket is the reservoir, and there is a cup with holes in it that fits down from the top bucket to wick water up. They use about 80% less water than a standard planter. The plans are at http://www.globalbuckets.org Totally ingenius. For the buckets lining the rock wall in the picture... for everything but the hottest months when the plants were biggest, we watered these completely by setting a 5-gallon bucket in the shower to catch the family's warmup water, then distributing that through the watering tubes in the planters.

I really, really recommend these for anyone who doesn't have a lot of traditional ground space for gardening. Since it has the bottom reservoir, it's not going to leak all over your deck. And those potatoes there were started in April, then brought inside when temps dipped below freezing. A bit of manual labor, but for us it was worth it to have food so early.

But start collecting your buckets soon, before the bucket war begins! You can go to Whole Foods, or go up the supermarket delis and ask if they have extras. Sometimes the deli or bakery manager will save them just for you.

Vegetarians still eat eggs and cheese. Vegans wont eat anything animal oriented at all.

Vegans won't even eat honey or wear wool, even though no animals were harmed. I read an article once that claimed that oysters were vegan-safe, since it's a reflex-based animal that doesn't feel pain, operating like a venus flytrap would. But I didn't see any other vegans jumping on the oyster bandwagon.

It's interesting how following one specific way of eating opens you up to so many others. The same packaging that says "gluten free" will also market to raw foodies, vegans, halaal, etc. I have a wonderful vegetarian cookbook that has articles that explains all of this. It's fabulous. Some vegetarians will eat fish but still consider themselves vegetarians because fish is a much simpler creature, less sentient.

I have so many people treat me like I'm an idiot because I make my kids go gluten-free and limit my husband's meat intake. Especially the gluten thing. I mean... how can you possibly have a reaction to such a widespread American food??? You know... like eggs, nuts, milk, shellfish? (sarcastic font.) When people really get in my face about it, they shut up really fast when I tell them they're welcome to give my kids a piece of cake, but they have to keep the kids for the next 2 days.

So I figure, with all the controversy we all have to face about whatever we're eating, who are we to ridicule someone else's choices?
 
You know, with how warm the weather has been, I've been thinking I'm going to start a couple pots of lettuce and swiss chard this week. They can take a light frost, but I can just take them inside at night, maybe give them a bit of time under the UV bulb until the days get a little longer. Chard and kale grow just fine under a little snow, too.
 
re: definitions of vegan vs. vegetarian... I'm a died-in-the-wool carnivore and didn't know there was a distinction between the two terms. I knew there was an ovo-lacto something. I shall be more careful in my generic categorization. I really thought vegan and vegetarian were interchangeable.


Its no big deal. A lot of people think vegetarians, vegans, and pescitarians are just hippies who are protesting the man but in reality most of them are just people who are compassionate about how bad our system with producing and keeping animals CORPERATELY (meaning they dont judge people who hunt or raise their own food) or are concious about what they are putting into their bodies. I had asked one of my friends who is a diehard vegan (doesnt eat any animal products) if she would eat my eggs since my girls are treted well, will get to live here after they stop laying, and are gonna lay the eggs anyways. She said she couldnt just because it had been so long since she had eaten an egg! lol.
Yes, the bottom bucket is the reservoir, and there is a cup with holes in it that fits down from the top bucket to wick water up. They use about 80% less water than a standard planter. The plans are at http://www.globalbuckets.org Totally ingenius. For the buckets lining the rock wall in the picture... for everything but the hottest months when the plants were biggest, we watered these completely by setting a 5-gallon bucket in the shower to catch the family's warmup water, then distributing that through the watering tubes in the planters.

I really, really recommend these for anyone who doesn't have a lot of traditional ground space for gardening. Since it has the bottom reservoir, it's not going to leak all over your deck. And those potatoes there were started in April, then brought inside when temps dipped below freezing. A bit of manual labor, but for us it was worth it to have food so early.

But start collecting your buckets soon, before the bucket war begins! You can go to Whole Foods, or go up the supermarket delis and ask if they have extras. Sometimes the deli or bakery manager will save them just for you.


Vegans won't even eat honey or wear wool, even though no animals were harmed. I read an article once that claimed that oysters were vegan-safe, since it's a reflex-based animal that doesn't feel pain, operating like a venus flytrap would. But I didn't see any other vegans jumping on the oyster bandwagon.

It's interesting how following one specific way of eating opens you up to so many others. The same packaging that says "gluten free" will also market to raw foodies, vegans, halaal, etc. I have a wonderful vegetarian cookbook that has articles that explains all of this. It's fabulous. Some vegetarians will eat fish but still consider themselves vegetarians because fish is a much simpler creature, less sentient.

I have so many people treat me like I'm an idiot because I make my kids go gluten-free and limit my husband's meat intake. Especially the gluten thing. I mean... how can you possibly have a reaction to such a widespread American food??? You know... like eggs, nuts, milk, shellfish? (sarcastic font.) When people really get in my face about it, they shut up really fast when I tell them they're welcome to give my kids a piece of cake, but they have to keep the kids for the next 2 days.

So I figure, with all the controversy we all have to face about whatever we're eating, who are we to ridicule someone else's choices?

thanks for the advice missy! Ill get started collecting buckets. We will have a garden this year as we did the last time we lived in this house but it will be mostly food for US. I have a HUGE deck in the backyard that faces south, can be fenced off, and is PERFECT for this kind of thing!



My eggs should be here Friday I guess,so I will let them sit a day before I put them in.So that puts me at Saturday. We live in Spanish Springs.Im home all day everyday,so just shoot me a PM to let me know when you wanna come out. I check my eggs after about a week to see if they are developing,so you will know within a week if they are fertile or not.


sweet thanks! Ill be in stockton until saturday evening so is it cool if i shoot them by a day late on sunday?


I put Gilbert and 'lil red on cragslist this morning. Hes been crowing at 3 am and marks just about had it. haha. Hes the one who wanted the coop next to our bedroom window! LOL. I WISH we could just find the perfect rooster! One that crows like Petey (petey didnt start up until 8 or nine and didnt crow very often during the day. if he did it was from underneith the deck) but i want it to be sweet and gentle too. Gilbert was litterally chasing poor sweet olive all around the yard today, hahaha. oh well. Were gonna keep mr. pants and see how that goes.
 
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oh yeah! I also wanted to show you guys what me and mark did. We covered the ENTIRE backyard in hay, hahaha. Theres a methd to our madness! Its completely helped with the mud. The mud us and the dog track into the house and the mud the girls track into the coop. It has been working VERY well and the girls seem to like it a lot. I left under the deck alone though because theres tons of little buggies under there for the girls to eat.
we havent even had to wipe Elvis's feet after potty breaks for the past few days. its been awesome.

and hell, it looks better than dirt.



 
Love it! I did something similar a few days ago. The open-air part of the coop and the path through the backyard were so mucky that I took some of the straw and scattered it all along it. Much better. Until Oh'no (the middle dog) decided I had just made her a new place to poop. *sigh*

Your backyard is really big!
 
Love it! I did something similar a few days ago. The open-air part of the coop and the path through the backyard were so mucky that I took some of the straw and scattered it all along it. Much better. Until Oh'no (the middle dog) decided I had just made her a new place to poop. *sigh*

Your backyard is really big!

Yeah im surprised how well its working! although its probably going to be a pain to clean up this summer, haha. It only took two bales of hay also.
Our backyard is big! I love it so much, it was the only reason i agreed to come back to this house, the rest of it is a DUMP! as long as the girls are happy im happy, lol. Id say the whole lot sits i 1/4 acre or 1/3 acre
 

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