New birds, not experienced.

[Rachael<3Chickies]

Yes absolutely on the quarantine I agree. They were quarantined but only in a diff run and didn't change clothing. Will know better next time how easy it is. If one does, I will get it tested and am waiting on a call back from someone on live diagnostic testing. I found one but was $450 and with them all hanging in there, probably won't do that unless forced.

So far all are alive. All are showing acute symptoms. I'm suspected (shot in the dark kind of thing) the most unresponsive has the addition of an impact crop and will bbe addressing that tonight after doing some research. I've learned a lot this year about chickens. Lol Didnt know what a pullet was in May. Haha

 

[Eggcessive]

That $450 charge is ridiculous. Some states are so helpful to do testing for a nominal fee, while others make it hard for people. Kentucky seems to make it hard, so I probably would call the state vet, and just tell them you want to identify the respiratory disease. Do you know any breeders in your area who raise chickens and might be able to tell you how to contact someone who tests for NPIP? My vet hospital in Proctorville has a doctor interested in chickens (Proctorville Animal Hospital,) and they have associates at the vet clinic in Ashland, KY. I haven't ever taken any of mine in, or gotten testing. There are state threads where you may be able to ask about who others use to get testing for shows and such. Here are a couple of links to look at:
http://vdl.uky.edu/
http://www2.ca.uky.edu/smallflocks/Health-NPIP.html

 

[Rachael<3Chickies]

That $450 charge is ridiculous. Some states are so helpful to do testing for a nominal fee, while others make it hard for people. Kentucky seems to make it hard, so I probably would call the state vet, and just tell them you want to identify the respiratory disease. Do you know any breeders in your area who raise chickens and might be able to tell you how to contact someone who tests for NPIP? My vet hospital in Proctorville has a doctor interested in chickens (Proctorville Animal Hospital,) and they have associates at the vet clinic in Ashland, KY. I haven't ever taken any of mine in, or gotten testing. There are state threads where you may be able to ask about who others use to get testing for shows and such. Here are a couple of links to look at:
http://vdl.uky.edu/
http://www2.ca.uky.edu/smallflocks/Health-NPIP.html

That's funny you should suggest that. I have actually talked to both the state vet and npip. Both said I should call around and ask if they do testing. I can't seem to find anyone that does a blood test or swab. My only lead is a specific person who happens to certify the very person I bought the chcikens from. Yes they were certified. But they sold me chickens they were selling for their mom, completely violating their certification. I'll be mentioning that. But anyways, I left a voicemail today and will try again tomorrow. I never imagined it would be so hard to order a blood test but it really is. People just keep saying -we do stool samples on chickens is that what you want. And I'm like no. That's not what I want a want a blood or swab for disease indentification. Crickets. Will try again tomorrow.

 

[Rachael<3Chickies]

The 450 charge is from a for profit privately owned clinic. So. Yea. Big bucks. The extension offices, state vet, etc said I was in a terrible area to care about a chicken. lol I'm like yea I'm in a terrible area for anything but maybe like tobacco or something. I will call proctorville tho. Thanks.

 

[Pyxis]

That's funny you should suggest that. I have actually talked to both the state vet and npip. Both said I should call around and ask if they do testing. I can't seem to find anyone that does a blood test or swab. My only lead is a specific person who happens to certify the very person I bought the chcikens from. Yes they were certified. But they sold me chickens they were selling for their mom, completely violating their certification. I'll be mentioning that. But anyways, I left a voicemail today and will try again tomorrow. I never imagined it would be so hard to order a blood test but it really is. People just keep saying -we do stool samples on chickens is that what you want. And I'm like no. That's not what I want a want a blood or swab for disease indentification. Crickets. Will try again tomorrow.

If that doesn't pan out, try these guys.

http://zoologix.com/avian/Datasheets/PoultryRespiratoryPanel.htm

You'll have to email them to ask their pricing, but they've done deer mice for me before and the charge for that test was $85. The panel I linked would probably be more expensive, but hopefully less than the $450 that you were quoted elsewhere.

 

[Rachael<3Chickies]

"Positive for

Ornithobacterium rhinotracheale; negative for other panel components"

According to Zoologic panel recommended.

They are still sick. My main flock seems to have gotten slightly sick then went on with theirs lives... never really skipped a beat or slowed down. Have not had to medicate them at all. How strange.

 

[Crooked Chicken]

"Positive for

Ornithobacterium rhinotracheale;

Did they give you any information on what to expect once recovered or ?? I looked at this link and said in the henhouse it is mainly spread through aerosols (sneezing), direct contact or waterers. So the chickens you already had might not have been directly affected.
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/106/ornithobacterium-infection-ort/

Also saw this link for the ELISA test at a veterinary college and it's cheap there -- might see if there are any similar schools near you for future help. Think I'm going to see if anything near here as well.
https://vetmed.iastate.edu/ornithobacterium-rhinotracheale-elisa

 

[Rachael<3Chickies]

Did they give you any information on what to expect once recovered or ?? I looked at this link and said in the henhouse it is mainly spread through aerosols (sneezing), direct contact or waterers. So the chickens you already had might not have been directly affected.
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/106/ornithobacterium-infection-ort/

Also saw this link for the ELISA test at a veterinary college and it's cheap there -- might see if there are any similar schools near you for future help. Think I'm going to see if anything near here as well.
https://vetmed.iastate.edu/ornithobacterium-rhinotracheale-elisa

No just a test. I looked it up. Treatment is antibiotics but resistance is high in this bacteria. They had recommendations. I don't know them off the top of my head. It helps to indentify the strain although I probably won't go any further with with any testing. I'm glad it's not a carrier. When I called the state vet my description was my flock infection was that as soon as a day or two after introduction gradually my whole flock was sneezing. The state vet said it was likely me being too viligant. He said it's unlikely to be that quick mg takes 21 days. The incubation on this bacteria is 1-4 days and first clinical symptom is usually sneezing. Response is highly variable. Some die some get really sick some just do what mine did. Management is often highly correlated. And age. I'm thankful they are okay and hoping they continue to be so.

The test for the 8 resp panel was $98. The bacteria lives in ground different times depending on temp. It can be secondary as it is opportunistic.

Mine are still separated until they better bc I am only as educated as the internet although I've been reading peer reviews published studies. I can't seem to find whether immunity is build or not.
So there what I known for other who experience a similar situation. The test WAS worth the money to me as most respiratory symptoms in chickens look like each other.

Also: please no one buy chickens from flea markets and note that npip certification is very basic in many cases. Mg, etc- not tested at all for certification and may not show up as symptomatic in quarantine.

 

[Pyxis]

I'm glad you finally know what it is! Also glad that it seems that if they recover, that'll be the end of it for you. that they pull through. It looks like some strains have been found to be sensitive to tetracycline, so that may be something to try. You'd have to get it from a vet, though.

 

[Rachael<3Chickies]

I'm glad you finally know what it is! Also glad that it seems that if they recover, that'll be the end of it for you. that they pull through. It looks like some strains have been found to be sensitive to tetracycline, so that may be something to try. You'd have to get it from a vet, though.

Thanks.