New Helmet rule Dressage & Eventing (Updates in Post #1)

I think anything with sufficient energy-absorbing padding, will not have the slim outline of a cowboy hat or a top hat.

The one possibility is that some suffciently energy-absorbing material could be developed that would absorb energy enough to protect from a blow or axonal tear type injuries, and yet would still have a very slim outline.

I also think that a hat that covers the occipital area of the head and the temples low enough, couldn't have the same shape as a top hat or cowboy hat.

Many inexpensive crash helmets don't cover the sides of the head or the lower back part of the head; I think the Charles Owens helmets generally do, but I did see one 'skullcap' type Owens with no padding in it - just a shell - the so called track helmet.

I had a Caliente helmet (the first was 'the Caliente', and there were some copy brands - I had the original, LOL).

I had it for many years, this was the pebbly tan with leather harness type, that jockeys and eventers used to always wear. usually with a cover on it. Made with older materials than today's helmets, it was very hot and rather heavy. It got very sweaty, the forehead band crumbled, and the sweat would run down into my eyes, and I couldn't get a replacement anywhere. It was very hard to clean, and mice seemed to think it was their personal toilet. Still I kept using it, and screaming at the mice. If it didn't stay in my locker, I was likely to forget it and leave it at home.

The staff at the tack shop told me that after so many years, the energy absorbing material was brittle and far less effective and I needed to replace it right away.

I always thought the Caliente had super coverage on the sides and on the back of the head - I was rather surprised at how low in the back the Charles Owen model I just got goes!

Another shock was how light and comfortable it is. I wondered why I'd been using the old one for so long!!

I showed it to a neurosurgeon and he said, "That's a **** of a lot better than those ***************** plastic 'hair nets'", which absolutely stunned me. He explained that most of the severe injuries are to the side or lower back of the head, and that the newer designs have much more effective coverage.

He ALSO told me that helmets with large vents in them are not as effective - less structural rigidity to the helmet, and a lot less energy absorbing material. THAT also surprised me!

He drew an outline of a head and shaded the sides and back, and said, 'I don't care WHAT certification there is, get a helmet that substantially covers these areas!' He also went into the thickness of energy absorbing material and told me to avoid any 'skull caps' - helmets with thinner or little to no padding, just a hard shell.

So I did. That was the Charles Owens, but there are other brands that offer the same padding and side and back protection.

I never bought the 'The Man wants to wrap up everyone in cotton wool and protect them', because I don't view a helmet as cotton wool. I view it as Sports Equipment. For me, it's that simple. It's sports equipment.

And if I can do what I love, and still protect myself from injury, I'm happy to do it.

To me, THAT is freedom.

To me, sickness, injury and disability is enslavement. Jail. Prison you can never escape the entire time you
re alive.


I used to agree that it was only affecting the non wearer, and no one else if someone chose to go without a helmet.

The first thing that put a chink in that argument for me, was watching a couple people with Traumatic Brain Injuries, while their parents took care of them the rest of their lives, because they were too messed up to work, think, dress themselves, figure out what to eat for dinner, stuff like that.

When some eager number cruncher showed me how much their decisions affected my walllet, I started to think maybe I was on the wrong track.

Those who 'choose freedom' and get hurt, force all of us to pay for their care - through taxes and health insurance and health care and hospitalization cost increases.

Insurance companies as well as hospitals, are cheaper to run with fewer charity patients(hospitals) and payouts (insurance companies). It's that simple. The more people get hurt, the more health care costs everyone else.

Even so, I don't begrudge people their decisions to not wear a helmet, and I don't pressure them to change. They need to come to that decision themselves, or not.

But the way things are going, their choice will increasingly be, either compete and wear a helmet, or don't compete. People past competitive age may not care, but those who compete - they will have less and less choice as time goes on.
 
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There actually is a western style riding helmet, my son had to get it for 4-H, it sucked, he quit riding in the shows, and just went back to wearing his regular riding helmet and stuck to trails.
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I do not know what is on the market right now, but the western helmet they came up with umpty years ago (early 90s maybe??) was, ah, kind of amazing looking. Not something people would wear if they cared about looks, which since that was the only kind of people who you would even MARKET such a thing to, made it a real nonstarter from a sales perspective. (People who ride western and care about protection but *not* so much about looks just wear the regular helmets)

I am with welsummerchicks about the unlikelihood of a TRULY protective TRULY "normal-looking" top hat or western hat style helmet ever being manufactured... even if some great technological advance allowed constructing a proportionately-correct one, they just don't sit right on the head.

(As an aside, I would point out that Charles Owens used to be a poster child for NON-protective "helmets" i.e for the hunter show set, I was amused when they finally joined the rest of the world
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Those who 'choose freedom' and get hurt, force all of us to pay for their care - through taxes and health insurance and health care and hospitalization cost increases.

Insurance companies as well as hospitals, are cheaper to run with fewer charity patients(hospitals) and payouts (insurance companies). It's that simple. The more people get hurt, the more health care costs everyone else.

This argument sorta-kinda reminds me of the push a few years back when FPL wanted people to cut back on their electricity usage in Florida, saying that otherwise they would have to build more power plants and up the usage rates to pay for them. We did what they asked so well that THEN FPL went to the commission and asked for a raise in rates to reimburse them for the loss in revenue! My personal opinion is that the day people stop taking any kind of chance about ANYTHING, the insurance companies will find some other excuse to raise rates anyhow, just like FPL did. They are in business to make a profit and, dang, they will make it one way or another. They will bully us out of every single penny they possibly can using whatever excuse it takes. Meanwhile their fear tactics will continue to cause people to be afraid of their own shadows. Sure, you'll live longer, but what KIND of life will you be living, afraid to do ANYTHING somebody else thinks might be dangerous? You call that living? No thanks.

Even today, not all horses are used for pleasure. Some of us still use them to work. Try working cattle out in open country where the temperatures are often above 100 degrees while you're wearing one of those helmets with no ventilation and see how many more cases of heatstroke there will be compared to the occasional head injury. I'm betting it'll be better than 4:1. You want helmets for competition? Fine. Competition is still a voluntary diversion. Ranch work is not and my fear is that you folks will let the insurance industry back you into such a corner that even ordinary ranch work will require one or they will exclude it from coverage. More profits for them and another American tradition gets it in the neck.

But what do I know? I'm just a silly old man who STILL doesn't wear a seatbelt.


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Terrific topic!

I do believe that everyone's entitled to do what they wish, but I cannot think of one reasonable argument as to why most people shouldn't wear a helmet that outweighs the risks.

Regarding comfort, there are helmets now which can be quite comfy (I forget I'm wearing mine sometimes, which is the key to a well-fitting bucket) which are extremely well-ventilated and even accommodate cooling mechanisms. Moreover one can purchase detachable wide brims that can further keep the sun off of someone's face. Combined with a wet bandanna and cooling vest, the heat is manageable (and I've ridden in 110-degree plus weather).

While this rule is a very big step forward, the biggest obstacle to getting everyone into a helmet is the influence of trainers.

Most trainers and instructors simply ride their horses in baseball caps. While they may be very talented riders, and many won't wear helmets out of comfort or sending a "signal" that they're not as skilled a rider if they acknowledge they can come off the horse, Courtney's accident reminds us all that horses are still bigger and stronger than humans. Most damaging, it sends a misleading message to students (especially younger students) about the role of safety in training; when a "role model" won't protect themselves, what incentive to students have to do so?

I witnessed a woman's death as her horse bolted while walking out of the arena, dumping her on the hardpack - she wasn't wearing a helmet, which could have saved her. And, I too have been saved from certain brain injury by a helmet. I won't get on my horse without my trusty "brain bucket." Even though I look like a dork, I am a more confident rider knowing that I am unlikely to turn into a vegetable.

Every trainer should be required by their liability insurance companies to ride in helmets.
 
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Yeah, Helmets in most western disciplines is never going to happen and same thing with saddleseat.

Some breeds like Paso Fino and WHAM (for Walking Horses) require ALL juniors to wear helmets.
 
I read that! I just went and looked at the USEF rules again.

As much as some people may dislike it, it's going to get more and more.

I even think there will come a time when ranchers will find themselves without health insurance if they and their workers don't wear helmets.

Things are different with health insurance now. Even if you swear you won't sue someone if you get hurt on their property, if you send a claim to your health insurance company for an injury you received on that person's property - the health insurance company will sue the property owner, without even telling you.

I never was one of those 'you gotta do this' kind of people and I'm not now, but I do recognize what the statistics are and make the choice for myself, to wear a helmet...and I'm one that really suffers in the heat due to medical problems. I didn't always, either.

I think eventually, boarding stables will make helmet rules rather than face lawsuits for 'negligence'.

I've often thought of requiring any trainers that come to my barn to ride my horses when I'm sick, to wear a helmet, but I think most of them would say, 'If you have a helmet rule, I won't come over and train your horse'. So for the time being I don't require any trainers who ride here to wear a helmet, but I do ask them if they would please wear a helmet.
 
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Many endurance riders wear them, not so much for the "fall" but what your head might smack into while trotting at 10-15mph through the woods. MANY times I have conked my head on a branch and was sssooo glad I had my helmet on. Juniors are required to wear a helmet and 99% of all adults do too in distance riding. Helmets are also good for deflecting lighter, flexible branches by looking down and pressing chin to neck, a helmet will "sweep" the branches up and out of the way instead of getting you across the eyes or face.

I remember back in the 1990s when I first started showing, my trainer made me wear this awful, THICK velvet helmet with a huge clunky harness at all horse shows while a friend who didn't ride with said trainer wore a sleek, hunt cap. I was always so jealous because it looked so much cooler (in both senses of the word) than the heavy thing I used to have to wear.

It's so wonderful that helmet technology has allowed us to wear, sleek, lightweight, thin-harnessed headgear instead of those huge, heaby, non-ventilated things of yore.
 
Just got another email that several big tack suppliers have put helmets on sale for 20% off, in anticipation for people needing to buy helmets. The new rules take effect March 1 2011, I think.
 

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