North Carolina ban to Kill Numerous Breeds

[al6517]

Pit bulls will and do kill and kill often, they kill dog's and humans alike the facts are out there for all to see, Pit bull owners just have a hard time coping with the fact that their breed is viewed as a killer and a menace to society. I understand their dilemma but refuse to sympathize with the problem or convert to a tolerance policy regarding pit bulls. It is ashamed what has happened to that breed, but it was bred specificly for aggression and it just got out of control, so control is what is needed to protect other people and property from further attacks. Finding the best way to control or eradicate the breed is where the problem begins and it may take awhile before there is any progress made so people feel safe to walk the streets.

 

[cafarmgirl]

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Very well said! And this is why the arguement for "it's not the dog, it's how you raise them" is just not always correct. Sometime yes, not always. If a dog was born with a poor temperment or otherwise has a screw loose you can raise him and train him to the best of your ability with every possible advantage you can provide and still end up with a dog that is a bite or attack waiting to happen.

My previous neighbor was a breeder/shower of Amstaff's, they were beautiful, friendly dogs, wonderful temperments. I own Rottie's myself and I'm not for banning breeds either but I do agree that not just anybody should walk in and adopt these breeds when so much of what's up for adoption comes from very questionable breeding practices.

 

[Kevin565]

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i have to disagree. Yes there are some cases of fatal attacks. There are fatal attacks in different breeds. However, to say they kill often is quite misleading. Pit Bulls are a very popular breed. However, there are many many irresponsible owners that don't properly train their dog. True Pit Bull breeders no longer breed for aggression. They prefer to breed dogs with better temperaments. Pit Bulls are a loving affectionate breed that can be a excellent addition to the family. Many people trust their children around these dogs. I agree that yes Pit Bulls are becoming a big problem in the US thanks to Backyard breeders and ignorant owners. However, they are not a monstrous breed that they are made out to be.

 

[Haviris2]

What I'd like to know is who is identifying these dogs as pits? I've become abit skeptical w/ the numerous articles I've seen claiming 'pit bull attack' only to see a pic of a different breed, I for sure don't believe them w/out a pic proving it's a pit and not a shepherd mix (as one was very clearly).

 

[Matthew3590]

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But apparently you missed the sociological and behavioral significance of the details of those facts(poverty, feral dogs, chaining, and parents allowing a large dog access to their children)

No i didn't over look that......all those facts happen to the other breeds also...guess in the case of pits it makes them more of a killer.

MY WHOLE POINT pit bull attacks are more deadly...not saying the breed should be kill ,but people need to know the danger of a pit bull attack.

trouble most pit owners will not accept that fact.

Pit bulls might have killed more but it doesn't mean they are more deadly of a killer. Depends on who they were attacking. Rottweilers and German Shepherds are harder to deter than pits.

 

[deerman]

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No i didn't over look that......all those facts happen to the other breeds also...guess in the case of pits it makes them more of a killer.

MY WHOLE POINT pit bull attacks are more deadly...not saying the breed should be kill ,but people need to know the danger of a pit bull attack.

trouble most pit owners will not accept that fact.

Pit bulls might have killed more but it doesn't mean they are more deadly of a killer. Depends on who they were attacking. Rottweilers and German Shepherds are harder to deter than pits.

disagree ..in most of these attack those two breed can be stopped..in case of the pits attack most are still fighting and only stop when shot.

 

[ChickenWisperer]

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I'm sorry but I couldn't help but to disagree more... I wouldn't call a whole 17 attacks in a year often, given how many "pits" - which encompass more than just one breed and every mix under the sun - there are. I am not a pit bull owner. I have never been a pit bull owner.

As stated many times over, they have been bred for dog aggression. Not human aggression. I don't think it would bode well for the people who fight them if they had been. If you don't feel safe because there are pits and bully breeds out there, then I honestly don't know what to say without sounding hateful. There are much bigger, much more human-aggressive breeds out there.

I am far more scared of GSDs than I am of pits. Living across the street from a K-9 police handler for 8 years let me see just how powerful that dog, and the Malinois he also owned, were. The GSD did bite someone without command or provocation, and while I wasn't there to see it the man was given stitches. Does that make me afraid of GSD's? No. My cousins Malamute Kemo, which was chained in the yard, bit him. Am I scared of Malamutes? No. The point is that even though I may have one bad experience with a breed, it doesn't give me reason to have fear of a breed.

Fear should be dealt out when you see an individually dangerous dog. One that acts shy, nervous, territorial, or downright aggressive. When a dog snaps or growls at you, be afraid. When you see a dog lunging for you, be afraid. If an individual dog bites or mauls someone, be afraid. When you see a "bully" walking down the street in his own space, minding his owner or simply smelling the roses, while acting like a well adjusted and stable dog should - you shouldn't be afraid.

Any person should know that you should be afraid of an individual and not general mass. What is slowly happening is just like racism, only worse because those being persecuted have no voice and can't fight back.

A dog the size of a bully or larger has the capability to hurt or kill you. That's just how it is.

 

[deerman]

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i have to disagree. Yes there are some cases of fatal attacks. There are fatal attacks in different breeds However, to say they kill often is quite misleading. Pit Bulls are a very popular breed. However, there are many many irresponsible owners that don't properly train their dog. True Pit Bull breeders no longer breed for aggression. They prefer to breed dogs with better temperaments. Pit Bulls are a loving affectionate breed that can be a excellent addition to the family. Many people trust their children around these dogs I agree that yes Pit Bulls are becoming a big problem in the US thanks to Backyard breeders and ignorant owners. However, they are not a monstrous breed that they are made out to be.

Yes but the pits out number the fatal attack ,now counting for 40% of the those....think of the number of all breeds total , alot more of them yet the pit kills more than and other breed almost 3 X

You are so right.....look how many of those death of childern was because of this very reason.

That what I have problem with pit owner acting like their dog wouldn't attack.

More people have been bitten, by a dog thats doesn't bite(so their owner says) than any other dog.

NO large dog should be trust 100% around small children.

 

[Matthew3590]

How many pitbulls are there compared to the other large dogs? For example. If you are looking at a yes or no question and you had 3x as many girls then boys then on those it would be expected that they might have 3x the amount of yes' compared to the boy.

 

[deerman]

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I'm sorry but I couldn't help but to disagree more...I wouldn't call a whole 17 attacks in a year often given how many "pits" - which encompass more than just one breed and every mix under the sun - there are. I am not a pit bull owner. I have never been a pit bull owner.

As stated many times over, they have been bred for dog aggression. Not human aggression. I don't think it would bode well for the people who fight them if they had been. If you don't feel safe because there are pits and bully breeds out there, then I honestly don't know what to say without sounding hateful. There are much bigger, much more human-aggressive breeds out there.

I am far more scared of GSDs than I am of pits. Living across the street from a K-9 police handler for 8 years let me see just how powerful that dog, and the Malinois he also owned, were. The GSD did bite someone without command or provocation, and while I wasn't there to see it the man was given stitches. Does that make me afraid of GSD's? No. My cousins Malamute Kemo, which was chained in the yard, bit him. Am I scared of Malamutes? No. The point is that even though I may have one bad experience with a breed, it doesn't give me reason to have fear of a breed.

Fear should be dealt out when you see an individually dangerous dog. One that acts shy, nervous, territorial, or downright aggressive. When a dog snaps or growls at you, be afraid. When you see a dog lunging for you, be afraid. If an individual dog bites or mauls someone, be afraid. When you see a "bully" walking down the street in his own space, minding his owner or simply smelling the roses, while acting like a well adjusted and stable dog should - you shouldn't be afraid.

Any person should know that you should be afraid of an individual and not general mass. What is slowly happening is just like racism, only worse because those being persecuted have no voice and can't fight back.

A dog the size of a bully or larger has the capability to hurt or kill you. That's just how it is.

That 17 are kills, not just attacks