November/December "Hatch-a-Long"

[Heidisgran]

1 of my 10 day old Russian Orloffs

 

[SoManyHats]

1 of my 10 day old Russian Orloffs

Sooo cute!

 

[SoManyHats]

Just did my day 10 candling. I tossed four that were clear. When I opened them up, it looked like a couple had started but then quit maybe on day 1. I'm unsure about these:

Is this embryo too small for day 10?

This is a different egg - the embryo is on the other side, but this side shows what I think is a blood ring. ??

 

[beach hens]

Just did my day 10 candling. I tossed four that were clear. When I opened them up, it looked like a couple had started but then quit maybe on day 1. I'm unsure about these:

Is this embryo too small for day 10?

This is a different egg - the embryo is on the other side, but this side shows what I think is a blood ring. ??

That looks like a weird egg

 

[chickydee64]

agreed these don't have the correct tail

x's three. These do not appear to me English. I raise BBS English. English look like a basketball with feathers.
There is a thread under breeds. Imported English Orps..lots of pic's........... This is a good place to get feedback on the breed.
The price of course would depend on the breed lines and the breeders reputation.
I have found that it is worth the little extra to purchase from a reputable breeder.
My hesitation with the Lavenders is that if the breeder does not know what they are doing,
yellow bleeding through can be a problem.
I think they are beautiful though.....Good Luck.

 

[Cknldy]

1 of my 10 day old Russian Orloffs

Pretty little chick! Here's one of my 2 week old Russians-

 

[Cknldy]

At 5 days old "How ya doin' sweet cheeks?!"

 

[SoManyHats]

[COLOR=008080]x's three. These do not appear to me  English. I raise BBS English. English look like a basketball with feathers.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008080]There is a thread under breeds. Imported English Orps..lots of pic's........... This is a good place to get feedback on the breed.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008080]The price of course would depend on the breed lines and the breeders reputation.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008080]I have found that it is worth the little extra to purchase from a reputable breeder.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008080]My hesitation with the Lavenders is that if the breeder does not know what they are doing,[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008080]yellow bleeding through can be a problem.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=008080]I think they are beautiful though.....Good Luck.[/COLOR]

Are you two speaking of the first picture or the second? The second is from the breeder I was going to purchase chicks from.

 

[Farmer Viola]

I have found that it is worth the little extra to purchase from a reputable breeder.
My hesitation with the Lavenders is that if the breeder does not know what they are doing,
yellow bleeding through can be a problem.
I think they are beautiful though.....Good Luck.

Can I ask how you go about finding reputable breeders? I am looking for reputable breeders in my area. I am trying to find people locally (Oregon/Washington) so I can drive there, and avoid having eggs damaged in shipment. Right now all my air cells look like saddles and I'm stressin. I want to do better next time... (they aren't even hatched yet! lol!)

Here is a picture from Old Orchard Farms, copyright is theirs.


I would say your picture is not of English LOs. English have a much rounder body shape. It's just like anything in breeding through. You can get inexpensive "pure bred" animals, but that doesn't mean they are quality. I can get LOs or Blue Laced Red Wyandottes from a hatchery, but if I want birds that have been bred with an eye to standard, health, improvement, and quality, that will give me good blood to raise equally beautiful birds in the future, I will look for a quality breeder and pay more. If I just want pretty egg layers, I'm not going to be as picky. When I saw the pictures of these English LOs, I fell in love.

As for $3/egg, add up your gas for the 200 mile round trip, figure in your hatch rate, then consider the possibility of males you don't want, and decide if that's actually a good deal. Of course, feeding the hatching addiction, you might not care.

Those are BEAUTIFUL! Those do look quite different in the tail area, and maybe even slightly lighter color...

I'm not picky about "show quality" or show "standards," but I AM very interested in finding breeders who generate healthy birds, with good parents, from a strong lineage free of disease and illness and unnatural rearing methods (ie hatcheries). I can find them online, but it's much more difficult to find them locally where I can go pick up the eggs in person!

From the info I have pieced together, American Orpingtons have been diluted and breed more for eggs. They have gotten smaller. The Engilsh are more pure, are still a dual purpose and much larger. American Orpingtons, cheap. English Orpingtons mid range in price. I'm sure the show quality are quite a bit more. But I think trying to find out which someone has is a bit like the whole EE/Ameraucana thing. Someone will insist they have English when they are clearly American and they are charging too much. Some people don't know there are different ones and are charging very little for English. And a lot are mixed between the two because the breeder can't afford 2 English. This is what I have found the most, so I gave up on Orpingtons. I have one Lavender and one Buff as my 2 token Orpingtons. Originally I had planned on raising Orpingtons and Ameraucanas. Had the same problem with both, people weren't selling what they were advertising or charging for.

That makes a lot of sense, thank you

 

[familypendragon]

wow, $20 per chick! I have been eyeballing a craigslist ad (I'm always cruising for fertile eggs. shuddup!) about 100 miles away, $3/egg for lavender English Orps. I'm starting to wonder if that's a bargain? after shipped eggs I'm willing to drive next time.. what does the "English" part of lavender Orpington differentiate from a regular lavender Orpington? from the ad, are they english? I can't believe I'm already planning the next hatch...

I am not an Orpington person (yet, LOL!) so I can't tell you the differences but if you look on here I would bet you will find an English Orpington thread for breed devotees that can tell you