Official Pagan Thread!

[sune42]

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Just give me that side hug, that Christian side hug.

 

[sune42]

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I feel this way at times. Wrote a poem back one time when I thought my head would pop!

Cosmos
Whirling, swirling cosmos,
What wonders do you hold?
For those of that seek,
What answers will unfold?

Planets and stars fill your sky
Formed when time began
All brought into being
With the Creators hand.

What mysteries do you possess?
Will I ever know.
It is your wisdom that I seek,
On this path I wander so.


Not the best but it helped me focus at the time, lol

I think that it is beautiful.

Lovely, both of you. It is hard to feel connected sometimes because, at least I know my life, is all ways go go go. I have loved the past few days, getting my garden ready, letting my chicks spend some time outside, just being out there. Very therapeutic.

You know what I love about this thread, aside from that all of you are awesome? I love the fact that we can have real conversations and share thoughts and ideas instead of regurgitating doctrine that has been thrown at us. I have had some fantastic conversions with people of other faiths, but I have also had some where all they can argue/discuss with is quotes from the bible, no thoughts of their own.

ETA

ON enjoy those peeps!

 

[Tam'ra of Rainbow Vortex]

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My friends and I can speak a language we do not 'know'. We all have accents, and some are better than others at letting it flow, but we have come to realize it IS all the same language. I have a lot of trouble speaking, but I can translate if I hear it slowly. One of my roomies speaks in this language when startled/angy/surprized and often even when he is calm. I have begun to complie a dictionary... anyone know how to reassign keys in wordperfect so I can hit keys to type in IPA without having to go through the 'insert' function? I don't know if it will ever be complete, and there are disputes over pronounciation and EXACT meaning even among us three. We think we all knew this language in another life. Since we were indifferent places at different times when we learned it, we all have our own dialect almost. Its wierd though, if you take me and 5 of my closest friends and we each say the same sentence, you can hear the progression from one extreme to the other. Sounds a little crazy to talk about this with folks I don't know... its not something we usually discuss. But I feel it is real because I have met about a dozen people who can all speak this same language. Drives some of them nuts cuz they don't know what they are saying.
But i have seen videos of evangelicals speaking in tongues... some of it sounds gibberish, but i can understand some of it!
By the bye, Jesus Camp is the SCARIEST movie I have ever seen. Makes me want to hide... its a doccumentary on evangelicals.... terrifying.

 

[Dust Bunny]

i have been feeling very lost and disconnected lately, well for a long time i guess, and I'm not sure what to say or do, i "discovered" paganism maybe four years ago (tho looking back i feel ive always been pagan) and when i found the pagan path i voraciously read EVERYTHING i could get my hands on, Cunningham, Buckland, Morrison ect. but it seemed the more i learned the more i doubted myself? is this normal? has anybody else felt this?

 

[saddina]

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I think it's healthy to stop and examine what you believe/feel/think in all of life. So many people just mindlessly obey whatever drivel they're spoonfed without stopping to ask why. If you're stopping to question and think things thru that seems more sensiable than blind acceptance of whatever you're told. (Anyone wanna guess who has "obedience" issues?)

I would be far more worried about you if you opened the first book, and decided it was 100% right for you, and never thought back to reexamine that.

~Saddi, who teaches her kids to question the man, but gets grumpy when they question the mom.

 

[CoyoteMagic]

Sometimes.

Somtimes you just need to step back from everything for awhile. Life moves so fast these days that one day becomes just like all the next. Weeks start to blend together. Summer is almost here and I haven't gotten half the things done I've wanted to accomplish.

Sometimes you just need to stop. Shut off the tv, phone, get away from all the noise that we don't even realize is there. You would be surprised at all the background noise that pollutes our senses. The hum of the fridge, street noise, the ceiling fan spinning, all of it makes me crazy.

Time to detox and recharge. I don't know the depths of your spitual beliefs or rituals you participate in. For me, I escape to the woods. Somewhere deep into the wilderness that you only get to by foot. Preferably some place that has water. I'm liable to go skyclad as it's only me and my dog. If I can, I will build a fire, maybe build a sweat lodge. Nothing can purify your body and mind better than a hot steamy dark place.

Time to take care of you. Everythingelse will work it's self out when you do.

 

[Organics North]

Hey Dust Bunny,
I sure like what Saddina and Coyote Magic had to say..

Oh heck, sometimes it is just plane hard to find ones own path let alone walk it. I feel that is why so many people join whatever, just so they can think they are not lost or disconnected.. I personally feel doubting ones self is normal and healthy. Especially for eclectic people, whose paths zig zag through life.

I know all about doubt, I went from having a successful well paying job, to a self employed person, hardly making any money at all. lots of people, even many close to me doubt me. Heck, on days I doubt myself. You know what,,,,,,,, I tell myself, NO! ...... I am going to follow my instinct, I am going to follow my passion, fully realizing my instinct and interests may and will likely change over time.. I am coming to accept, that I do not have to pick a path (any kind of path) and stay on it the rest of my life! It is OK to change my mind... It is OK to try different things.. I like to think I am being honest with myself this way and being honest with myself is always a good first step, albeit not the easiest step...

Be in yourself.. Trust yourself..Love yourself... Frequent a space in life that makes you feel the most relaxed/centered/grounded.)
(It is the mantra I tell my self.)

Thanks Dust Bunny...

ON
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PS> We got to follow Coyote's advice all evening...The power was out, my wife commented how nice and quiet it was.. How nice, reading books with the boys by candle light... Simple...Satisfying.... (Know, off to a sweat lodge in the woods my mind goes..)

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

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While I really don't doubt myself, I do feel very unconnected to humanity. Quite often when I read I find myself saying , "Yeah, right! And I've got a bridge for you!"

I don't see anything wrong with that. Heck, the more I learn, the more it seems to me that I may not even actually BE pagan (altho I don't know what else I could be). But that is okay. I don't have to fit any labels; I just have to be true to me. I figure I cannot know what I believe or don't believe unless I read a bunch of what is out there, but that does not oblige me to buy into whatever the author is saying. What he is saying is HIS truth, not mine. My obligation, if you will, is to keep on looking and keep on questioning.

When I poke and prod at my own sense of disconnect, I realize it probably has as much to do with growing up gay in a straight world as anything else. It does not help that I don't believe most of the drivel that everyone else does, so it is not surprising that I do not feel "connected" to them. I just keep on keeping on. Periodically I remind myself that life is a journey and most journeys are, by definition, about exploring the unknown.

Rusty

 

[I have WHAT in my yard?]

The issue I struggle with this year has been one of anger. There are so many people that are SO corrupt and they are making such huge profit from it and there seems to be no justice or karma at all, and I get very angry and frustrated because I am doing the right thing and don't feel like it is paying off for me. So some days the anger at it all gets to me.

But, usually, I take it as a sign that I am looking at the wrong signs. I reassess what I am valuing and start over. Slow down, tune out the noise, tune out the news, tune into the universe, tune into the seasons, tune into my own heartbeat. I stop to listen to my children's laughter. I take the time to enjoy the utter hilarity of a flock of chickens running downhill!! Or the silliness in my dog's grin!

The world is unjust. It simply is. It always has been and probably always will be. Like I said before I can spend my life fighting it or I can go with the flow in a way that makes me feel calm and happy. That, for me, means not giving in to the pull of our society to be as corrupt as others. It means not giving in to the pull to define myself by what I own. It means not valuing myself based on how others see me.

It is not always easy. I was very angry at Goldman yesterday. But, I do believe in karma and the drive to ascend to a higher plane. Sometimes we can see it, sometimes we cannot.





I am pretty sure that there are a few people on wall street right now who will come back as maggots in true form next go 'round!

 

[Kanchii]

Just wanted to point something out for your "Good Karma not paying off" bit... I believe in reincarnation. What if the Karma from one life pays out to what/where you are born in the next life? TO me, you are born again many times so that you can learn from each life before finally being reconnected to the creators (or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, whatever you believe in) So if you're being a good solid person in this life, you'll probably be born again as someone who is better off. Those people with the money who are screwing everything up? Something tells me they won't have such a grand life next time. There are people who have money who do great things with it in our world. It just might not get to be you in this lifetime...

Just my random rambling thoughts...