OH, NO....Is she actually a HE? EE or Ameraucana?

[TheDirtyLawyer]

None of us until we decided to get chickens!!! For instance, did you know that it is the hen, not the rooster, that determines the gender of the chick? Or that lineage isn't important in APA breeds like it is in AKC dogs (and any other mammal I guess). If it LOOKS like what it is supposed to look like and it breeds 50% true, it is "pure". People cross in other breeds to get traits they want to improve. I was when I read that. The genetics (which I DO NOT understand !!) are quite complicated, so many genes that interact, which are recessive which are dominant. I think I would hurt myself if I tried to understand it.

What!!!? That's crazy. Well no wonder people just call the "breeds" whatever they want! Lol

 

[bruceha2000]

This is an excellent picture showing the color I refer to as "rooster red" and the location it tends to show up in first (at least in EEs). It is more of a mahogany red than other shades of red.

 

[bruceha2000]

What!!!? That's crazy. Well no wonder people just call the "breeds" whatever they want! Lol

I suppose, but a breeder has to work really hard through many generations to ensure the birds they have conform to the APA Standard Of Perfection for the breed. Just because the first generation or two are OK doesn't mean there won't be things popping up later on.

 

[bruceha2000]

You can read through this thread and see how many people have the same question about the gender of their EE's.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...xing-tips-and-tricks-pictures-included.463817

 

[TheDirtyLawyer]

This is an excellent picture showing the color I refer to as "rooster red" and the location it tends to show up in first (at least in EEs). It is more of a mahogany red than other shades of red.

This is an excellent picture showing the color I refer to as "rooster red" and the location it tends to show up in first (at least in EEs). It is more of a mahogany red than other shades of red.

Like this!!!

 

[Glitterchicks]

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Here's what I was talking about...
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These are brown leghorn. This pattern is referred to as gold duckwing.
Note the hens reddish breast and the roosters red areas and the darker red on shoulders.
Now if you add dominate white to these the white tries to cover everything but can't cover the reds.....
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When these chicks hatch out they're white and it takes a while for the reds to come in.
You can see the hens have red breast and males don't. With pullets that's where the red shows up first.
On cockerels you can see the darker patch. Females won't have that and it is the first area to show up on male chicks.
Here is a couple examples of birds to see what they look like in real birds.
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It works for a few patterns but yes it doesn't work for any and every white and red birds.
I bred a lot of these kinda birds crossing white and brown leghorns. That's all I'm going by is my experience from that.
For me it is about the area where the red comes in at and where it comes in first that makes me say what I did about both the white/red chicks pictured.
I'd have to go back and look at your last pic again and see what I think.

Oh, I see- thank you!! I understand what you're saying.

 

[Glitterchicks]

Comb is getting more color and looks bigger now.

Hers is not.

I'm putting my money on the top one being a roo. Not that I have any experience whatsoever, ha!

 

[Glitterchicks]

I called the hatchery where I got my fake ameraucanas and asked if they are "breed standard ameraucana" and the girl very honestly and quickly said, "no, They are not. They are Easter Eggers. I don't know why they're labeled that way. Sorry".

So... there it is!
I love my Easter Eggers.

 

[bruceha2000]

Too bad the girl doesn't have the pull to get it changed. I love my Easter Eggers too!

 

[TheDirtyLawyer]

I called the hatchery where I got my fake ameraucanas and asked if they are "breed standard ameraucana" and the girl very honestly and quickly said, "no, They are not. They are Easter Eggers. I don't know why they're labeled that way. Sorry".

So... there it is!
I love my Easter Eggers.

Good for her for the simple and honest answer.