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[lynn1961]

The no till is for the winter seed mix food plot for wildlife, they have the seeds in the deer hunting sections, as for a no till garden try lasagna gardening beds, this is a good time of year to get them set up, google has a lot of links. Our garden consist of the areas that you have to dig or till and raised beds that are not much maintance at all. After the chickens get through scratching around in the raised beds in the early spring there is not much else to do to them besides plant.
So looks like turnips and turnip greens are on the menu for dinner time very soon, along with some pork chops and maybe fried green tomatoes, okra, and what ever else is out in the garden area.

 

[NanaKat]

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Just put up 6 pints of Green Tomatoe Pickles

Step one...allow these to sit for 12 - 18 hours. The salt draws the excess moisture out. ThenrRince the tomatoe/onions in clear water and drain.
3 lbs green tomatoes....wash and cut into thin slices
3 large onions...pell and thinly sliced
1/4 cup coarse canning salt (no Iodine)

Step 2 bring to a boil
3 cup apple cider vinegar
1 lb (about 2 cups packed) brown sugar
3 green peppers sliced thin
1 - 2 sweet red or yellow peppers diced
3 minced garlic cloves
Add the tomatoe/onions and simmer until the tomatoes are transparent (about an hour)

Add:
1 1/2 tsp dry mustard
1 1/2 tsp whole cloves
1 tsp powdered cinnimon
1 1/2 tsp powdered ginger
2/3 tsp canning salt
3/4 tsp celery seed

Stir frequently
Fill canning jars to within 1/2 inch of the top of jar, wipe rim and seal with a hot canning lid.

 

[Ksane]

Found this on another thread.
A link regarding ivermectin's ineffectiveness in large roundworms, cecal worms and capillary worms in chickens:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0450.1989.tb00635.x/abstract

 

[GotGame]

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Link doesnt work

 

[Ksane]

Oops, messed the link up, sorry-I'll fix the other one also.
Here it is:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0450.1989.tb00635.x/abstract

 

[muesky]

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Sounds like a good time to make fried green tomatoes or green tomato chutney.

 

[sjarvis00]

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No big deal, that like half the dosage I use... I keep my birds penned and have used it on birds that had worms when we aquired them and when on a wire bottom cage with a catch tray I can tell you it worked well. As did the the follow up. did you read the dosage used? .2mg / Kg of body weight.. I would not expect that to be effective..
Did you notice that it does not state the actual product used and teh % of active ingredient. Additionally this was released for publication in 1989, but finally published in 2010.
I will stick with my current routine, it works for me, and that is what I know..

 

[muesky]

Well I got home and found Gregory and one of my turkey hens alive, wandering around the coop yard looking for a way in. Whatever did the deed yesterday was back today but did not get anyone, since I had the place on lock-down no free ranging. I am grateful for those who survived. Piaget and her man are not in such a all-fire hurry to get out of the grow-out pen now, so I am going to open up pen to the chicken yard and let everyone have the entire area since the numbers are so much lower now. All said I lost 7 turkeys and about 30 chickens.
I still have my two original millie fleur rooster and three hens left (one of the hens is the one I got from Maryjo) so even though the breeding is going to be less stock I am still in the project.

Okay I need some feedback. Either these animals are exceptionally smart or they have some two legged help. My quarantine pen gate is hard to open. You have to slide the latch up after you move the mesh covering off the top, which these animals figured out how to do. They also figured out how to slid open my coop door both today and yesterday. Today I had a large piece of r-panel also blocking the door. Whatever it is, is too big to get through the side pop-door that allows access from the coop to the chicken yard. I am going to go out and reinforce the coop doors. Mind you this is happening in broad daylight. Is this typical behavior for our normal predators?

And yes an answer to the question about the llamas normally they are aggressive to strange dogs coming around the place. Also whatever they were they left Stella alone and the cats alone. My thought is these are very big domesticated dogs (they carried a 35lb turkey over the fence). Also they killed everything they could not carry off or eat. That is typical of a domesticated dog. Coyotes and wolves often just kill what they are going to eat. At least that has been my experience. I could be wrong.

 

[bfrancis]

This afternoon was crazy at our house...found one of our turkeys had been killed

...well saw it actually, by a new type of predator.

Our three big runs have external locking gates to each run...but we have interior doors that have the old time screen door latch to hold them closed so you can open it from either side...not locked. Well, one of our big fat stupid turkeys apparently got his hulking weight behind it and pushed it open, it does take about 15lbs to open it...and he was well over...and decided to explore the peacock run...bad idea on his part.

We heard the peacock honks/ruckus and went out to see what was going on, they had the poor turkey up against the interior fence and as he was trying to escape the pounding/flogging the poor guy broke his neck.

Needless to say, we butchered the tom...and also made another discovery, (this was the first turkey we ever butchered) they may have two wings, two legs, and feathers...their inside parts are nothing like a chicken...and our first finished attempt looks nothing like the nice prepackaged butterballs

but he should taste just as good, if not better being home grown. We were going to butcher our frier pen next week anyway, guess he couldn't wait.

Lessons learned, Peacocks are very territorial and don't like turkeys. Put hasp on door if animal on the other side weighs more than 15lbs...and lastly, after this year of stupid turkeys and the trouble of butchering, no turkeys no more...ever

 

[sjarvis00]

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That does not sound like a dog even... I have seen them dig in, break fencing, but removing items to open a door or gate does not sound like a dog.. I think you have a neighbor problem that happened to have a dog with them.. You need a camera set-up.