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[nnbreeder]

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If breeding for show as Monty said the breeder must adhere to the Standard of Perfection as for body type and color. But if you are breeding for fun then all rules are out the window. Any birds, no matter how butt ugly, that display the naked neck will also carry the traits of the NN breed such as disease resistance and heat and cold tolerance. In extreme conditions, either heat or cold, the NNs will out perform the best broilers in feed conversion and the best layers in eggs layed and feed conversion. But in mild climates they don't do as well as the commercial breeds.

Now when breeding NNs about six or so generations out of the parent stock you will start to see changes. They will get to be what is called a crow head and the dead in shell rate on hatching chicks will go through the roof. When this happens then it is time to do an outcross either with another NN or another breed altogether. They are one of the few breeds that won't breed true for a long time.

 

[mjgigax]

More about the NNs - I was suprized when my chick pecked me because I am used to only handling Cochins. I thought NNs were a rather mellow breed. So I wonder what handling game birds is like? I have dealt a little bit with Jack's Marans (neighbor across the road with big flocks of standards) and have been flogged by a couple of angry hens and chassed by a crabby rooster. What are the "meanest" breeds?

 

[nnbreeder]

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Awww they are giving you love bites already, how sweet!

Yes it could be a splash. We bred a golden hackled black to a white and got a splash chick.

 

[mjgigax]

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If breeding for show as Monty said the breeder must adhere to the Standard of Perfection as for body type and color. But if you are breeding for fun then all rules are out the window. Any birds, no matter how butt ugly, that display the naked neck will also carry the traits of the NN breed such as disease resistance and heat and cold tolerance. In extreme conditions, either heat or cold, the NNs will out perform the best broilers in feed conversion and the best layers in eggs layed and feed conversion. But in mild climates they don't do as well as the commercial breeds.

Now when breeding NNs about six or so generations out of the parent stock you will start to see changes. They will get to be what is called a crow head and the dead in shell rate on hatching chicks will go through the roof. When this happens then it is time to do an outcross either with another NN or another breed altogether. They are one of the few breeds that won't breed true for a long time.

NN, I am truely impressed by your knowledge and am grateful that you share so generously!

 

[Kassaundra]

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If breeding for show as Monty said the breeder must adhere to the Standard of Perfection as for body type and color. But if you are breeding for fun then all rules are out the window. Any birds, no matter how butt ugly, that display the naked neck will also carry the traits of the NN breed such as disease resistance and heat and cold tolerance. In extreme conditions, either heat or cold, the NNs will out perform the best broilers in feed conversion and the best layers in eggs layed and feed conversion. But in mild climates they don't do as well as the commercial breeds.

Now when breeding NNs about six or so generations out of the parent stock you will start to see changes. They will get to be what is called a crow head and the dead in shell rate on hatching chicks will go through the roof. When this happens then it is time to do an outcross either with another NN or another breed altogether. They are one of the few breeds that won't breed true for a long time.

That is all good to know. I was mostly intrigued by the heat and cold tolerance, watching my girls pant all day in this heat. I was also reading on another thread about their disease resistance, it was all very interesting. If I get some it will be for fun, not serious "show" anything, just to add to my EE's, but I would put them in the group w/ a Rooster and when I raise young as additions/replacements that would be the idea to add the NN qualities to the EE's I already have.

 

[nnbreeder]

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We have never been flogged by a NN rooster and have been raising them over 20 years. Never been flogged by an Oriental Game either. But as I said they do give love bites which suprise more then hurt. Now I have had a few NN hens go after me once when I got way too close to her newly hatched chicks. The hen gave an alarm call and suddenly I saw 20 hens coming at me at a dead run. I backed up and everything went back to normal.

A good breeder will not keep a bird that shows agression to the keeper, as they say "A mean rooster has the best flavor!"

 

[CayuseRanch]

Hey everyone. I have been trying to figure out the breed of this chick for awhile now. Can't remember if I posted it on the OKies page or just the What am I threads. Anyone have any idea? Im not having any luck in the other areas. I did think BSL, but that was ruled out, someone mentioned wyandotte, but I have 6 of them and if some of them are a lot more colorful than this one. Ignore the ones in the background, I have all sorts of breeds in this batch.

 

[nnbreeder]

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Ya'll are the future of this hobby and it is up to us old farts that have already made major mistakes with the birds to pass on what we have learned. Most of my knowledge was passed to me by those that came before me and through the years I have added to it by doing a lot of research.

If ya'll do any searches concerning NNs be sure to put Naked Neck Chickens into the search engine. If you just search Naked Necks the results will melt your eyeballs. LOL Same with Auto-sexing chickens, don't type in sex-links. That is even worse!

 

[CayuseRanch]

Oh and Doc, that black frizzle only had 4 toes. So that rules out the silkie in the mix right?

 

[mjgigax]

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We have never been flogged by a NN rooster and have been raising them over 20 years. Never been flogged by an Oriental Game either. But as I said they do give love bites which suprise more then hurt. Now I have had a few NN hens go after me once when I got way too close to her newly hatched chicks. The hen gave an alarm call and suddenly I saw 20 hens coming at me at a dead run. I backed up and everything went back to normal.

A good breeder will not keep a bird that shows agression to the keeper, as they say "A mean rooster has the best flavor!"

LOL - hens in the "chick protecting" mode would make good ninjas!