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[shelbydog]

@hotcurltr
 
   had a good visit with coral, always enjoy chatting. The capons look great, betcha they'll miss your place!

I think it was one of your boys I was admiring a couple of weekends ago.

 

[nnbreeder]

Robin the green can be an indication of too much bile passing through the system. Nothing in there to digest. Make the usual checks. Feel the crop for anything unusual like being hard or squishy. smell his breath and make sure that he doesn't have sour crop. Due to wild birds coming back from the South Canker is a thought as well as Gape Worm. A worm infestation can also cause this.

 

[hotcurltr]

@hotcurltr how is the chick doing? if he is still having problems monday, bring him on over if you want. Sonny is a happy boy with the girls, but not gonna be a papa any time soon... i guess he is still trying to figure it out


the things we do for our chickens, just gave poor galahad an enema- he has some sort of blockage, poop is army green- any ideas? he is 6-7 and still chasing the girls - but losing weight-


had a good visit with coral, always enjoy chatting. The capons look great, betcha they'll miss your place!

She seems to be doning better. I still haven't caught her eating, but I have seen her poop, although it's thread like I am wondering about another enema. A lot of the swelling around the vent has gone down.too. She seems perky enough. Just finished up w/the new dog. He wasn't what I expected, but I think he'll do great. I'll explain tom how he was trained. I want to go give the baby some more vitamins. The other 5 ate all the oil mash I made her. Little piggies. That's good though. Since u said Sonny isn't going to be a papa soon, I'm guessing u cracked open an egg and it wasn't fertile. Is Galahad getting any grass or veggies, fruit> I'm the wrong person to ask, but they do get constipated when they get older. Cutting up small piesces of grass is supposed to be really good for them. I do it for mine all the time. I haven't for the new babioes, so maybe I should tom.. I feel sorry for Shiner(name of new dog) what a night to get him when it's supposed to storm. Hopfully he'll go under something for shelter. I was told not to baby him. Ha, don't know if tha't possible w/me. He was trained jsut to guard. Doesn't lead or do commands except no. As I said I'll explain how the breeer said to treat him. I don't know if I agree, but he's devasted because the geese attacked him, the goats are afraid of him and the chickens were in their coops. He laid down next to the chicken coop so I hope he'll be ok.

 

[shelbydog]

^^^if the breeder is raising true working dogs then you can't give them affection like you do pet dogs. I would have a hard time not giving them the same attention too.

 

[nnbreeder]

You want Shiner to bond with the critters that you have, they are more effective that way. It is hard not to treat them as pets I know but that is the way that it has to be. He can't be sleeping on the porch and then make a 100 yard dash to get to a Coyote that is already killing the flock or goats. He has to be right there to be effective.

 

[NanaKat]

Here is my "you are late with breakfast again" crew yesterday morning.

And to think you started with one pair a year ago...is that a Dottie on the left?

 Nanakat gotta tell a story that the lost calf reminded me of.   A friend of mine is a rancher and he had lost Queenie his cow dog so he was training a new pup. One sat. morning Richard went out to the pasture to check cattle and saw that his Longhorn cow had calved so he was going to check on the calf. They got about 20 yards from the calf and then got out of the truck to go up on foot as usual.  Always talking to his dogs and told the pup that the calf needed checked out when they were about ten yards out. Of course the pup runs ahead and starts to bring the calf to him which catches mama's attention. I guess that Richard had just got the door to the truck shut when she hit the side of it. LOL

Yep, never get between a mom and her calf and certainly not with a dog and a longhorn!

New question: 3/3 are laying, but only 2/3 are laying in the nesting box.  We have golf balls in the box and we've also left some eggs in there for a day or two for her to get the idea, but this morning, there was an egg, on the floor of the coop.  I went back out to find it later and it had been buried from all their scratching.  So my question is, should I just give it time and hope that she eventually lays in one of the boxes like the other girls? or is there something else I should be doing?  

You might set another box on the floor, put her egg in it. Once she lays in the box you can begin to move it closer to the other nest box...six inches each day.

 
We just got back from helping a neighbor search his 160 acres for a calf that was born last night.  Mom came up to feed this morning with the other cows and it was obvious she had not passed her afterbirth.  Instead of letting her out of the lot, he kept her in because he wanted to follow her back to her calf..  She then could not find her calf.  About half of his property is heavy woods and he looked from a quad runner....you look for a calf in the woods on foot.  When we got the call, he was on his way back to the city to meet with his tax consultant.  We were unable to find the calf or even locate where she might have had the calf.  We are thinking that the calf was either taken by coyote or the cougar that has been frequenting our local ranches.   This guy is a hobby rancher with 25 head of cows...nice guy...willing to learn and takes advice well.  Guess we will check his herd in the morning to see if Mom cleaned up and if she found her baby.  We have a vested interest in his herd since the cow this morning is actually one he traded for with us.  She is a great mom cow...sure would hate for her not to have a calf to raise.

Do they hide their calves at all? If we had as many as 160 acres, I am sure there would be more calves that we can not find! But between days 1 and 3 our mothers will stash their calves and then go eat with the heard. Best days to find calves are day 0 (look for mom) and 4 (look for mom or other babies). The in between days can be tough! I hope that this story has a good ending, but do not know yet as I am about a day behind on the posts.

The boys checked on her this morning. She had dropped part of the afterbirth and was grazing separate from the herd. They still could not find a calf and she did not appear to have been nursed. Yes, some cows will hide their calf for a day or two so they don't get challenged by another cow in the pecking order or the herd. Parturition weakens a cow and others will challenge her. The neighbor's hired hand will continue looking for the calf....hope he finds it with the cow.

 

[shelbydog]

And to think you started with one pair a year ago...is that a Dottie on the left?

Yes it is! She's always around under foot looking for a hand out. She's got a good personality. I was hoping she was going to go broody b/c she was flattened out and growling in the nest box but nope.

 

[artsyrobin]

Robin the green can be an indication of too much bile passing through the system. Nothing in there to digest. Make the usual checks. Feel the crop for anything unusual like being hard or squishy. smell his breath and make sure that he doesn't have sour crop. Due to wild birds coming back from the South Canker is a thought as well as Gape Worm. A worm infestation can also cause this.

ok, will go over crop and breath, they do free range- so he is getting greens- used flubenet to worm, didn't see any, i may dose with wazine just in case- i didn't see urates

 

[Loriemarler]

About a month ago I got some bantams from Atwoods. I know they order from Ideal. One of the chicks is staying small. What are the chances it is a serama?

 

[artsyrobin]

pics would help, i don't think hatcheries sell seramas?