***OKIES in the BYC III ***

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You will very seldom find un-finished birds available at the shows. Most will be 10 months + and chosen as spares from breeding programs, or show birds that have past thier prime but not used in breeding for one reson or another..

Jarvis, things like Marek's that's passed through feathers and dander is what's scary. And Marek's birds can look healthy & never get sick after their initial bout with it yet infect other birds with their dander: the birds at the shows have been bathed at least once and ussually several times, along with dipping to help maintain feather quality and reduce debris and dander in the under down. Standing back at 2 ft and not being able to handle a bird also helps reduce risk. being clean and washing and changing clothing makes sense but may be a bit overkill for teh bigger shows. the smaller county and 4-h shows where the birds are not preped as well that would another story.

When Teva worked for one of the large hog farms they really wanted employees that had no animals of their own and you would shower in and shower out plus you were not to stop at any stores on the way to work all in the name of biosecurity.

If a hog ever got outside it did not come back into the barn either, it was rounded up and shot.

But the employees would on a regular basis finds 'coons and 'possums rummaging through the cabinets in the break room.

So much for biosecurity!
 
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Both, I guess. I really need to sit down with my inventory list and see who is extra. I know I have extras because not everyone fits in my six winter pens yet. It's so gosh-darn hard to look at these guys and say, "Yup. You're extra."

I am now confused. If you haven't yet filled your pens just how can you have extras?
 
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You will very seldom find un-finished birds available at the shows. Most will be 10 months + and chosen as spares from breeding programs, or show birds that have past thier prime but not used in breeding for one reson or another..

Jarvis, things like Marek's that's passed through feathers and dander is what's scary. And Marek's birds can look healthy & never get sick after their initial bout with it yet infect other birds with their dander: the birds at the shows have been bathed at least once and ussually several times, along with dipping to help maintain feather quality and reduce debris and dander in the under down. Standing back at 2 ft and not being able to handle a bird also helps reduce risk. being clean and washing and changing clothing makes sense but may be a bit overkill for teh bigger shows. the smaller county and 4-h shows where the birds are not preped as well that would another story.

When Teva worked for one of the large hog farms they really wanted employees that had no animals of their own and you would shower in and shower out plus you were not to stop at any stores on the way to work all in the name of biosecurity.

If a hog ever got outside it did not come back into the barn either, it was rounded up and shot.

But the employees would on a regular basis finds 'coons and 'possums rummaging through the cabinets in the break room.

So much for biosecurity!

I thin all of this makes sense to a point, however no one and nothing can ever be 100% biosecure, and if it was I do not think I would want any animal that grew up in that environment. They would be very prone to illness. I prefer to take reasonable measures but keep things enjoyable.
I know Tyson has differnt goals for thier animals just grow quickly with no complications.. It's a short life anyway. I prefer a long term plan for the animals not just in it for the one generation.
 
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Both, I guess. I really need to sit down with my inventory list and see who is extra. I know I have extras because not everyone fits in my six winter pens yet. It's so gosh-darn hard to look at these guys and say, "Yup. You're extra."

I am now confused. If you haven't yet filled your pens just how can you have extras?

I have extras and empty pens, thats why we started selling some pens, that and I want to finish the other 5 A-frames that I have cut and ready to go. It's nice to have 3 empty pens, was 5 but now one is gone.. I may just dissasemble them soon if nothing else. At least that way I cannot fill them.
 
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Forgot to mention the Happy around here today another Mama silkie hatching Silver Laced Wyandotte and silkies chicks......Just like I need more chickens going into winter just can't let a setting hen go to waste.....
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Congrad,,on your new chick's ...Silkie's are some of the best mother's in my book's ,,
 
Thot i would see alot of pic's from the show in indy my frinds sent me alot so ill post some in a bit,,
Big pigeun show coming up in stillwater ...
 
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Both, I guess. I really need to sit down with my inventory list and see who is extra. I know I have extras because not everyone fits in my six winter pens yet. It's so gosh-darn hard to look at these guys and say, "Yup. You're extra."

I am now confused. If you haven't yet filled your pens just how can you have extras?

I'm confused too. I've got six winter pens and there are ten birds in each pen. But, in addition to my winter pens there are some temporary pens and some tractors, and these non-winter pens have birds in them. I know that some of my birds in residence in the winter pens ought to be sold. Some of the birds in tractors ought to be moved into winter pens. Some birds in temporary pens need to get a job and pay for feed, and some silly chicken farmer needs to look at her list and figure out how the numbers are going to equal 60 before the first snow storm.
 
Some harvest pics from today.

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in addition to this 4 arm loads of greens (for the girls) and a 5 gal bucket of pears (still have more pears to go)
 

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