Orpingtons - My Black and My Red Cockeral

[Tuffoldhen]

But see Big Red and this pullet I have are from the same mating of my blue rooster over the same buff hen.....

 

[MissPrissy]

That is what has me thrown.

I might make him a harem of some mixed pullets - maybe a buff, the black from the bbs and a blue.

I am willing to experiment but I would really like to see what he produces with a pure black.

 

[lost]

How did you make the little boots?

 

[MissPrissy]

Cardboard and bandaids.

 

[joebryant]

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AMEN! Big Red's really something. That's one gorgeous chicken. I'd really like to see how the hens turn out.

 

[lost]

Thank you I had one like that but it died. I droped the egg

and I beleive that done it. His feet was like that too. I hand feed him for a day but i think when it fell it hurt him bad. I felt like dookie. when this happen

 

[seriousbill]

Hmm, I'm not really sure on this one, so feel free to take it with a whole shaker of salt, but, just to offer a suggestion, it seems to me what you want, genetically, is a Buff Orp with the dilute factors removed so that the bird is red. So, I'd say you'd want to stay away from black and use the red roo over buff hens, selecting for female progeny that don't have the champagne blond (Cb) and/or the diluting genes (Di) that keep them from being red. If I'm thinking right, though, these genes are dominant, so it might take another generation of breeding his daughters back to him before you'd get red birds. As I understand it (and my understanding is far from perfect, so anyone feel free to correct me on this) once these dominants are removed, and it'll be easy to see if they are, you should have true-breeding reds. Anyway, that might be the most direct route. For what it's worth. And I sure hope I'm not steering you wrong. Maybe someone else will chime in.

 

[MissPrissy]

I don't know how to find or if the buffs I have are what I need. I am struggling here and really trying to use him for some advancement in the orps and not let him go to waste. He is so flaming red in person. He looks mighty and tall and big and RED.

I thought the general rules was when you couldn't find something else use the pure blacks instead. Is this wrong?

 

[Buster]

I read today somewhere here that whites were the hardest color to change and blacks were the easiest. I don't know if that helps, but I also read today that Red Orps were bred from culled buffs that displayed too much red. As you can tell, I've been doing a lot of reading. I don't know if it is doing me any good, but I've been reading all day!

 

[seriousbill]

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It might be right. But I guess I was thinking I'd stay away from extended black because it is another dominant that you don't want and would have to breed out. It might be easier to breed it out than to breed out blond and dilute, though. I don't know. I just don't like black because it hides things and I can't see what I'm doing, LOL. You might breed him to buffs and blacks and see which gets you there the fastest