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[RabbitMage]

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Because there is no shortage of good looking, good tempered mutts in shelters and rescues.

 

[redhen]

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Because there is no shortage of good looking, good tempered mutts in shelters and rescues.

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But..thats not what we were talking about..

We were talking about breeding dogs...
You are RIGHT about there being no shortage of dogs in shelters! I agree with you on that! Again..plenty of pure bred AND mutts in shelters..

Maybe everyone should stop breeding dogs then??

 

[RabbitMage]

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Because there is no shortage of good looking, good tempered mutts in shelters and rescues.

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But..thats not what we were talking about..

We were talking about breeding dogs...
You are RIGHT about there being no shortage of dogs in shelters! I agree with you on that! Again..plenty of pure bred AND mutts in shelters..

Maybe everyone should stop breeding dogs then??

Actually, that's exactly what we're talking about. Why do you think we don't have a shortage of dogs in shelters? Because every John and Jane Doe looks at their dog and says "Hey! Fido's really cute/sweet/smart/well pedigreed, let's make puppies!" They breed, they give them to friends, sell them in the paper, sit outside Wal-Mart with a cardboard box.

And eventually those puppies grow up and they aren't cute. The kids lose interest, they chew too much, they bark, they get sick, they wander off, or they get old enough to breed and the cycle starts over. And sadly, a lot of those dogs end up in shelters. Or they end up running off to 'turned loose'-the ones that find their way to the pound in those situations are the lucky ones.

Irresponsible breeding is a cause of pet overpopulation. Responsible breeding is not.

 

[redhen]

Even responsible breeders pups can grow up to have babies and add to the over population problem..I'm just saying..

Breeder spay/neuter contracts are a joke..
I have a $600 persian sitting by my side right now.(she comes from show lines)..she said i get the papers when shes fixed..
i dont care about her papers..So what good did her contract really do??

I just wanted the cute kitty...

Also..no, shes not fixed yet...but i DO plan to get her fixed..just because i dont want a cat in heat in my house.....but i still wont contact the breeder for the papers...what good are they to me?

Just to say my cat has papers?? You can clearly see that shes a persian...LOL
NOW..if i REALLY wanted to breed her..i could with out the papers..and STILL get a couple hunderd dollars a kitten...just think about it for a minute..
How good are the breeder contracts really? Hence..i say ANY breeder can still add to the animal over population problem.

 

[Wolf-Kim]

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Many responsible breeders spay and nueter pups that aren't top quality. If they don't spay or neuter the pup themselves, they sell the puppy with a contract stating the dog will be fixed by the time it's a year old.

On the flip side, yes it lies in the responsibility of owners and breeders. Not every owner needs to be a breeder, of mutts or purebreds.

 

[redhen]

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Many responsible breeders spay and nueter pups that aren't top quality. If they don't spay or neuter the pup themselves, they sell the puppy with a contract stating the dog will be fixed by the time it's a year old.

you cant spay a 8 wk old pup...unless they sell them over 6 months old..

 

[Wolf-Kim]

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Many responsible breeders spay and nueter pups that aren't top quality. If they don't spay or neuter the pup themselves, they sell the puppy with a contract stating the dog will be fixed by the time it's a year old.

you cant spay a 8 wk old pup...unless they sell them over 6 months old..

That's what the contract is for, I believe the technical term is limited registration.

Of course it's not like they back those contracts up, but they prohibit the owners from breeding the dogs to create "registered" pups. Basically they are dead end registration papers. I had a friend who bought a Rhodesian Ridgeback this way, had to have him neutered by the time he was a year old.

It's up to owners and breeders alike to get the overpopulation under control. Yes, a dog is a dog, but why allow this dog to carry a litter whose health issues are questionable. They don't have homes lined up, and the owners are hoping to market the puppies. The owners will most definantly loose money, IF they raise the litter correctly from the start.

 

[redhen]

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you cant spay a 8 wk old pup...unless they sell them over 6 months old..

That's what the contract is for, I believe the technical term is limited registration.

Of course it's not like they back those contracts up, but they prohibit the owners from breeding the dogs to create "registered" pups. Basically they are dead end registration papers. I had a friend who bought a Rhodesian Ridgeback this way, had to have him neutered by the time he was a year old.

It's up to owners and breeders alike to get the overpopulation under control. Yes, a dog is a dog, but why allow this dog to carry a litter whose health issues are questionable. They don't have homes lined up, and the owners are hoping to market the puppies. The owners will most definantly loose money, IF they raise the litter correctly from the start.

Health issues are another story...i didnt know the OPs dog had health issues. oops!

 

[gaited horse]

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Or tell the lady you got her spayed and get the ppers and sell the kittens for way more.

 

[RabbitMage]

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Yes, you can. And a responsible breeder is generally very careful about screening and keeping in contact with the people they sell to.

But ultimately some people have no problem with breeding animals with no real goal in mind and don't care if they contribute to the shelter population which has to euthanize millions of animals annually.I don't really know what to do about that other than continue to push for responsible breeding practices, because that statistic makes me a little sad. Guess it doesn't bother some people, though.