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Fur-N-Fowl said:
I do agree with you it's far better to see birds in the wild rather than in a cage, that's any bird though. Doesn't matter if it's a little finch or a macaw!

People over here keep native Finches and black birds which there is absolutely no need when you can look out your window and see them everyday. Why keep something when it's already abundant and in your garden everyday to start with.

Sadly, a lot of native birds people keep have been wild caught and sold on which isn't only illegal but wrong. They have been cracking down on people that do that though thankfully!
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Yeah, but as soon as I think it's good to see them in the wild... I think again - they hardly got any wild left! It's just a broken record that plays over in my head, again and again: that's positive, oh yeah!

Still... I hopelessly breed little diamond doves and let them go in the bushiest places that I can find with the hope of seeing them again sometime, don't want to sell them. And I've come to hate selling hand raised birds because everyone does it! They're just getting churned out, lost, eaten. I find no long-term joy in breeding birds anymore :hit.

I'm a slave to the wild birds... Kookaburra landed on me once. I had to pull a legless lizard out of its nose once because it could breathe properly. After a few failed attempts at just pulling on it while it sat there I just grabbed it because it's so friendly. Funny, there's always the one friendliest one. I've watched it's family grow over the years, it's the only completely relaxed one.

Magpies are the same too. I have to pay a toll when I walk to feed the chickens out the back.
 
Well at the moment I'm caring for a galah. I'm trying to get a good diet for him. I give him my veggie diet I make for my other parrots but I also wanted to give him some pellets to make sure he has nothing missing in his diet. What brands do people use? I'm looking at the TOPS brand because they are cold-pressed and use natural ingredients, and it's just become available in Australia. Does anyone use this brand? Is it any good?

Also, the TOPS pellets are not widely available yet, they are being sold at one place. I may not be able to get them for some time until they are more readily available. Most other pellets in Australia are not so great as far as what I've been told and researched. In the meantime would it be better to feed a lower quality pellet or stick to the veggie and bean diet with limited seeds for training? Thanks.
 
Quailobsessed said:
Well at the moment I'm caring for a galah. I'm trying to get a good diet for him. I give him my veggie diet I make for my other parrots but I also wanted to give him some pellets to make sure he has nothing missing in his diet. What brands do people use? I'm looking at the TOPS brand because they are cold-pressed and use natural ingredients, and it's just become available in Australia. Does anyone use this brand? Is it any good?

Also, the TOPS pellets are not widely available yet, they are being sold at one place. I may not be able to get them for some time until they are more readily available. Most other pellets in Australia are not so great as far as what I've been told and researched. In the meantime would it be better to feed a lower quality pellet or stick to the veggie and bean diet with limited seeds for training? Thanks.
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What brands are available there? Here in the US, I've used Zupreem, Roudybush, and Harrison's, all of which are considered good brands to feed. Mazuri would be fine too.
 
Pyxis said:
What brands are available there? Here in the US, I've used Zupreem, Roudybush, and Harrison's, all of which are considered good brands to feed. Mazuri would be fine too.
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They are all available in Australia except the mazuri. They aren't cold pressed which is what I'm after. They all also contain added artificial vitamins which I don't want to be giving him every day. I was after the TOPS brand because it is cold pressed and doesn't contain soybean, wheat, corn or peanuts. It also doesn't have all the added artificial vitamins and minerals that most other pellets have.
 
Quailobsessed said:
They are all available in Australia except the mazuri. They aren't cold pressed which is what I'm after. They all also contain added artificial vitamins which I don't want to be giving him every day. I was after the TOPS brand because it is cold pressed and doesn't contain soybean, wheat, corn or peanuts. It also doesn't have all the added artificial vitamins and minerals that most other pellets have.
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I'm not familiar with cold pressing; from a quick Google it looks like it's a method of extracting juice from fruit? Is it healthier than other methods for some reason?

I don't think you'd have a problem feeding TOPS, but if you're not able to get it for awhile like you said might be a possibility, feeding one of those other brands won't hurt anything. I personally use Harrison's right now, which is organic, non-gmo, and doesn't contain wheat. Of the three brands I mentioned, it's probably the closest to what you're looking for, and it might be easier for you to find for now.
 
Pyxis said:
I'm not familiar with cold pressing; from a quick Google it looks like it's a method of extracting juice from fruit? Is it healthier than other methods for some reason?

I don't think you'd have a problem feeding TOPS, but if you're not able to get it for awhile like you said might be a possibility, feeding one of those other brands won't hurt anything. I personally use Harrison's right now, which is organic, non-gmo, and doesn't contain wheat. Of the three brands I mentioned, it's probably the closest to what you're looking for, and it might be easier for you to find for now.
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Cold-pressing is the alternative method to baking and extruding. Most pellets are baked and extruded which causes most of the nutritional value to be lost.

I am also cautious about most brands because they have added artificial vitamins which when fed to a bird everyday, can cause hypervitaminosis.

Here's an article on it: https://birdtricksstore.com/blogs/birdtricks-blog/vitamin-supplementation-for-parrots

I've looked at Harrison's, not really what I'm after. Sorry I sound so fussy and picky, I've just done A LOT of research on diets and nutrition (research is a borderline obsession for me) and I want to do the best possible job I can with feeding.

I have contacted birdtricks, professional bird trainers (where I found the article above), I use their advice for a lot of parrot issues I have (they are amazing with their knowledge, I got my parrot breakfast recipe from them) and have gotten some good advice.

Most of my info I get is from birdtricks which I'd advise for any parrot owner to check out. They can explain it all way better than I can.

https://www.youtube.com/user/BirdTricks/featured

https://birdtricksstore.com/


Thanks for your help. I don't want to sound like I'm shaming anyone or think I'm better than them because I'm picky with pellets or because I am obsessed with diets. I just love to share what information I get with the rest of the parrot community as we all are trying to better the lives of captive parrots; no need for conflict.
 

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