Robert Blosl
Rest in Peace 1947-2013
Does anyone have the Joel Gilman strain of Partridge Plymouth Rock Large Fowl? Please post or send me a personel message. Thanks Robert Blosl Sec. Plymouth Rock Fanciers Club
PARTRIDGE ROCK - - Breeders - - show us what you got . .
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The links don't work for me.
What links TimG. . . . ? ? ? Do you mean my photos for the first post ??
If so, I had to delete them to make room to upload more photos. I'll work on getting some more photos over the weekend and will repost them on the first posting of this thread.
The links don't work for me.
What links TimG. . . . ? ? ? Do you mean my photos for the first post ??
If so, I had to delete them to make room to upload more photos. I'll work on getting some more photos over the weekend and will repost them on the first posting of this thread.
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Nice to see you visit Robert. I would love to see some of Joel's stock. This thread has had a real hard time getting started.
I really was hoping to get one started on Partridge rocks, since they are so rare. I think if people saw how pretty they are there would be more interest in them.
My two hatchery stock are great foragers. I am waiting to see if they will be good broodies. They are just starting to lay.
I would love to discuss egg size and other aspects of them. . .
Nice to see you visit Robert. I would love to see some of Joel's stock. This thread has had a real hard time getting started.
I really was hoping to get one started on Partridge rocks, since they are so rare. I think if people saw how pretty they are there would be more interest in them.
My two hatchery stock are great foragers. I am waiting to see if they will be good broodies. They are just starting to lay.
I would love to discuss egg size and other aspects of them. . .
Math you will not find breeders of partridge rocks for there are only a few of us. I mean like 10. As far as I know I am the only one that is working with them only and no other breed. There are 2 hatcheryies one being Sand Hill the other being Mt Healthy that have the best hatchery stock. There is a show breeder in VA but I can not remember the name now. They have many breeds. Another out in KS. Of course Lots here on BYC out in Ca. Breeders are very spread out and most are not selling since we have so much work to do on the breed color variation.
A word of warning if you have never bred animals to a standard of perfection, this is not the color to start with in doing that. Because of the lacing of this color it is very hard to work with since you have to work with many factors. Body shape, color of skin, carriage of tail and wings, general body color and well as correct lacing. This is a short list. One would be better working with a solid color first like the buffs which are also rare or blacks, blue and splash or the more common white. Just to learn on how body type is and how intense breeding can get.
But for those that do choose this color variation in Plymouth Rocks know this. You will not be able to do major culling till after first year moult. Any culling you do before then will be getting rid of non yellow leg birds or those with layer body types. Do not cull based on plumage at all for moult will change it. Trust me on this one for I had a muddy colored pullet that molleted out stuning with correct markings.
Also know while PR lay well and threw winter come spring you will have lots of broodies. Which if you are selling eggs can be a problem. On a good note my PR can handle both heat and cold without any problems. Our summer this year was the worst in years. Much like South FL with high 90's for most of it. I grew up in South FL so I know how hot it gets. Mine kept to the shade and did drink more but my broodies never stopped. Laying did slow way down in later months. We have like 4 months of really hot weather. So I would not worry about temps too much as mine have gone from high 90's to 0.
A word of warning if you have never bred animals to a standard of perfection, this is not the color to start with in doing that. Because of the lacing of this color it is very hard to work with since you have to work with many factors. Body shape, color of skin, carriage of tail and wings, general body color and well as correct lacing. This is a short list. One would be better working with a solid color first like the buffs which are also rare or blacks, blue and splash or the more common white. Just to learn on how body type is and how intense breeding can get.
But for those that do choose this color variation in Plymouth Rocks know this. You will not be able to do major culling till after first year moult. Any culling you do before then will be getting rid of non yellow leg birds or those with layer body types. Do not cull based on plumage at all for moult will change it. Trust me on this one for I had a muddy colored pullet that molleted out stuning with correct markings.
Also know while PR lay well and threw winter come spring you will have lots of broodies. Which if you are selling eggs can be a problem. On a good note my PR can handle both heat and cold without any problems. Our summer this year was the worst in years. Much like South FL with high 90's for most of it. I grew up in South FL so I know how hot it gets. Mine kept to the shade and did drink more but my broodies never stopped. Laying did slow way down in later months. We have like 4 months of really hot weather. So I would not worry about temps too much as mine have gone from high 90's to 0.
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Joel Gilman has some fine looking Partridge. Nice size too.
Editted to add: He lives in VA so maybe that is who you are thinking of. He does not do BYC but you will find him at many shows along the East Coast. Also, he advertises in the Poultry Press.
Joel Gilman has some fine looking Partridge. Nice size too.
Editted to add: He lives in VA so maybe that is who you are thinking of. He does not do BYC but you will find him at many shows along the East Coast. Also, he advertises in the Poultry Press.
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I have some of Joels partirdge rocks. I also have barreds and whites from him.The partridge are the smallest of the 3 varieties. I think they have decent type. I plan on building my flock next year but i may have a few to sell.
I have some of Joels partirdge rocks. I also have barreds and whites from him.The partridge are the smallest of the 3 varieties. I think they have decent type. I plan on building my flock next year but i may have a few to sell.
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I agree. Next to the giant white rocks I have seen in the shows, the partridge are smaller. Once you start culling, etc. Size will improve within 2 years.
I know for a fact that alot of whites are over sized when it comes to the SOP weight. My Alpha is either dead on or a little ender or over correct weight. I need a scale to make sure. Guess it is time to buy a scale that will fit the chickens. I just got my order in from Cutler Supply so nest boxes will be reset up today and I have some finishing leg banding todo also. Can not wait to get coop expanded like I need. Plan is to have 3 flock coops here all with PRs which will come to about 100 birds in fall. Yes, I have some acreage and am isolated.
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I am interested in a bird that can take our long hot, extremely hot summers.
It needs to be a large egg layer that lays pretty well. I welcome the broodies. I have 20 plus birds in my flock now and NONE of them are broodies. I have been varieties due to discovering what works well for me.
The smaller build of the partridge rock is GREAT by me. I don't plan on eating mine, just collecting eggs. My other breed of choice is marans and they do not go broody. I prefer a hen raise the chicks than I do! So, I am looking for a breed that will stay busy either laying eggs or being broody.
It needs to be a large egg layer that lays pretty well. I welcome the broodies. I have 20 plus birds in my flock now and NONE of them are broodies. I have been varieties due to discovering what works well for me.
The smaller build of the partridge rock is GREAT by me. I don't plan on eating mine, just collecting eggs. My other breed of choice is marans and they do not go broody. I prefer a hen raise the chicks than I do! So, I am looking for a breed that will stay busy either laying eggs or being broody.
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One of my best broodies ever. She would disappear into the woods and come back later in the month with at least 13 chicks!
Hatchery stock from Ideal.
Check out the evil eye!
One of my best broodies ever. She would disappear into the woods and come back later in the month with at least 13 chicks!
Hatchery stock from Ideal.
Check out the evil eye!
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