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[AugeredIn]

Silver pied is a pattern not a color. We assume that because we can have any color bird in silver pied. If it were a color you would expect the color of the underlying bird to be affected by the silver pied and it is not. Therefore we consider it a pattern on a color.

 

[zazouse]

Silver pied is a pattern mutation not a split mutation from all i have read about they can not be split , they are a combination of the pied and white eyed gene working with the white gene

So if someone tries to sell you a dark colored peacock and tell you they are split to silver pied and you can get a silver pied from them ,walk away from that one if you are wanting silver .

This is one reason i have kept so many whites and pieds from my white hens and another reason i am purchasing IB silver pieds on my Florida trip so i will have pieds, white eyed, silvers, blues and whites pop up in my flocks so i may offer a wider variety without getting into colors like bronze ,cameo ,etc,etc, while i love all these beautiful colors they would not work in my flocks as i do not want to mix them in my flocks, i am trying to stay with IB variates only

 

[AugeredIn]

Silver pied is a pattern mutation not a split mutation from all i have read about they can not be split , they are a combination of the pied and white eyed gene working with the white gene

So if someone tries to sell you a dark colored peacock and tell you they are split to silver pied and you can get a silver pied from them ,walk away from that one if you are wanting silver .

This is one reason i have kept so many whites and pieds from my white hens and another reason i am purchasing IB silver pieds on my Florida trip so i will have pieds, white eyed, silvers, blues and whites pop up in my flocks so i may offer a wider variety without getting into colors like bronze ,cameo ,etc,etc, while i love all these beautiful colors they would not work in my flocks as i do not want to mix them in my flocks, i am trying to stay with IB variates only

Gonna have to respectfully disagree. I believe a bird can be split silver pied. I agree that it is pied, white and white eye but one of them is modified from normal. We have two pens of birds that are confirmed pied white eye and they have NEVER thrown a silver pied bird. I have a hen that is the product of a silver pied by IB breeding that throws ONLY silver pied or normal split chicks when bred to a dark silver pied male. This would imply that the special "silver pied" mutation is either on the white or white eye genes.

 

[AugeredIn]

...or if someone can find flaws in that logic I would love to hear it as we are trying to figure out exactly where the silver pied gene exists along with another unnamed breeder.

 

[DylansMom]

Gonna have to respectfully disagree. I believe a bird can be split silver pied. I agree that it is pied, white and white eye but one of them is modified from normal. We have two pens of birds that are confirmed pied white eye and they have NEVER thrown a silver pied bird. I have a hen that is the product of a silver pied by IB breeding that throws ONLY silver pied or normal split chicks when bred to a dark silver pied male. This would imply that the special "silver pied" mutation is either on the white or white eye genes.

Need you to clarify "dark silver pied male", just so I understand this. Would he be a Dark Pied out of Silver Pied parents? Does he show any indication of being out of Silver Pied parents or just visually appear dark pied and you know he is out of the SP's? I believe I have one of these, so I am curious as to whether I can prove it by certain breedings. Your hen that is the product of the SP X IB, what does she look like visually? Thanks so much.

 

[frenchblackcopper]

Thang is a dark pied imo. He has no silver anywhere at the base of his tail.I have never hatched silver pieds from Thang although last year he was with 4 hens,all either pied or carrying one copy of white. Two of those hens were from bssp hens and showed white lacing around their neck,or across their backs. I have checked wingbands and from what I've sold,I kept back a pair of very nice pieds from Thang last year but at this point,their mom is a guess. Besides the two hens hatched from bssp hens,the other two was a purple and an opal pied. They are not bssp for sure

 

[new 2 pfowl]

Sorry to jump in here but FBC is right!
THANG is, clearly...

D efinitely
A
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K ind of

P eacock:
I ndividualistic,
E ccentric, and
D ashing.

Excuse me again for barging into your thread, but a Thang Fan has to take all available opportunities to speak up!

 

[AugeredIn]

Need you to clarify "dark silver pied male", just so I understand this. Would he be a Dark Pied out of Silver Pied parents? Does he show any indication of being out of Silver Pied parents or just visually appear dark pied and you know he is out of the SP's? I believe I have one of these, so I am curious as to whether I can prove it by certain breedings. Your hen that is the product of the SP X IB, what does she look like visually? Thanks so much.

The dark silver pied male is out of two silver pieds. He looks no different than any other dark pied male except he is white eye and has a few small white blotches on his body. I would not be able to tell he was dark silver pied or dark pied white eye if I did not know where he came from. The hen out of the SP x IB breeding looks like any other IB white eye hen that is split white. She is frosted and has white primaries. I would not know she carried SP from the way she looks.

 

[DylansMom]

The dark silver pied male is out of two silver pieds. He looks no different than any other dark pied male except he is white eye and has a few small white blotches on his body. I would not be able to tell he was dark silver pied or dark pied white eye if I did not know where he came from. The hen out of the SP x IB breeding looks like any other IB white eye hen that is split white. She is frosted and has white primaries. I would not know she carried SP from the way she looks.

Thank you!