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[chickengr]

Happy New Year everyone!!

I am starting the new year with some changes. I rented a garden in the past and we are quitting the garden. It has been too much work and since it is not near our house it is always such a hassle. As well as I have been having knee issues. At first I was sad but now I am relieved.
2nd change will be that I am quitting the Augsburger breed. Well, probably. I noticed that the Augsburger like to chase the Sulmtaler away from the food. My Sulmtaler were somewhat smaller than last year. And I believe it was caused by the Augsburger. Don't get me wrong, the Augsburger are a wonderful breed. But my Sulmtaler are just more quiet and the Augsburger more forceful. I love them both but they just don't work out together.

sorry that you cannot garden and breed augsburgers. the truth is that you need 2 coops and runs if you want to keep 2 breeds. although I have room and coops I gave up many breeds. I like to see them free roam on a half acre (2000 m2) so it is better to have more chickens of the same breed. so far I am happy with egyptian fayoumis. I am making 2 new coops for muscovy ducks and african geese so that I can separate them from the others. I am considering to move fayoumis or pita pinta with them.

 

[chickengr]

Change is hard sometimes. But we usually come out stronger from the whole experience. The fact that you're feeling relieved, means it was probably the right decision. No massive shifts here. I've come to the realisation that aseel breeding is not something u can do right now, or ever. I'm loving the bantams more and more, but as of right now, the Tsouloufati are still going to be bred

I have just found your aseel thread and reading it from the beginning. it will take some time. why do you say you cannot breed them?

I found a flock of some pakistani aseel that are wheaten and somewhat small and chunky. a friend of mine got 12 eggs of tall aseel (not sure if they are chunky as well or just tall). the problem here is that many people here breed chickens without knowing a thing about them. the same happens with gardening, they have no idea about varieties.

 

[fluffycrow]

sorry that you cannot garden and breed augsburgers. the truth is that you need 2 coops and runs if you want to keep 2 breeds. although I have room and coops I gave up many breeds. I like to see them free roam on a half acre (2000 m2) so it is better to have more chickens of the same breed. so far I am happy with egyptian fayoumis. I am making 2 new coops for muscovy ducks and african geese so that I can separate them from the others. I am considering to move fayoumis or pita pinta with them.

I have many separate pens. The problem is that I like to see them free range, just as you

 

[fluffycrow]

I have just found your aseel thread and reading it from the beginning. it will take some time. why do you say you cannot breed them?

I found a flock of some pakistani aseel that are wheaten and somewhat small and chunky. a friend of mine got 12 eggs of tall aseel (not sure if they are chunky as well or just tall). the problem here is that many people here breed chickens without knowing a thing about them. the same happens with gardening, they have no idea about varieties.

The main problem is that it requires a lot of pens. Each male has to be separated from an early age up until they turn one year of age, at which point they get introduced to their hens. I have many pens, but not as many. Then there's the difficulty of finding people to take the birds you don't want, and even more so, finding good breeding stock. People have done it, It just takes me too much time. I have found a breeder selling hatching eggs, but his stock isn't amazing, and I have some birds on my property I'd like to keep safe, so mycoplasma is something on my mind

 

[chickengr]

The main problem is that it requires a lot of pens. Each male has to be separated from an early age up until they turn one year of age, at which point they get introduced to their hens. I have many pens, but not as many. Then there's the difficulty of finding people to take the birds you don't want, and even more so, finding good breeding stock. People have done it, It just takes me too much time. I have found a breeder selling hatching eggs, but his stock isn't amazing, and I have some birds on my property I'd like to keep safe, so mycoplasma is something on my mind

the pakistani aseel I mentioned in my previous post grew up together: 2 roos and 6 hens. they didn't fight. we'll see what happens with the chicks (if they hatch) from another breeder. I'll get some pics of his breeding stock on sunday (I hope so). my friend who bought the eggs says they are tall but didn't ask abought height and weight.

 

[abpatchy]

I have 4 coops and runs as well as 4 open open coops that have a tiny run meant for roosters or small breeding groups for a short time, or separating birds etc. If I were to keep both breeds I would need a coop and run for each breed's roosters as well as each breeds hens. And the adult roosters and hens. That is just not possible. And I hate to have them locked up in the small rooster coops... that is just for short term usage.

 

[fluffycrow]

the pakistani aseel I mentioned in my previous post grew up together: 2 roos and 6 hens. they didn't fight. we'll see what happens with the chicks (if they hatch) from another breeder. I'll get some pics of his breeding stock on sunday (I hope so). my friend who bought the eggs says they are tall but didn't ask abought height and weight.

My boy is Pakistani as well. An F2 import, to be exact. He and his brother were raised together. They had many fights, small, so we kept them together. At 6-7 months, they fought for good. The boy I didn't keep got his neck, wattles and comb bloody. Aseel should fight, it's in them to do so. You will not find a person more against cock fighting than me, but I will also not breed an aseel that has no will to fight. I'd love to see pictures of them! My decision to not breed aseel is recent, and due to my love for these birds I won't deny that I might easily change my decision

 

[chickengr]

My boy is Pakistani as well. An F2 import, to be exact. He and his brother were raised together. They had many fights, small, so we kept them together. At 6-7 months, they fought for good. The boy I didn't keep got his neck, wattles and comb bloody. Aseel should fight, it's in them to do so. You will not find a person more against cock fighting than me, but I will also not breed an aseel that has no will to fight. I'd love to see pictures of them! My decision to not breed aseel is recent, and due to my love for these birds I won't deny that I might easily change my decision

did they fight for no reason? sorry if I ask too many questions. I hate cock fighting (or any other animal) but I fell in love with those chickens. in order not to separate them I sent them all to a friend of mine (we bought an aseel family 1+3 each). unfortunately her farm got flooded and she lost many animals. mostly drowned then some that were wet and cold for days died. 1 aseel roo and 1 hen died.

I need chickens that are able to protect themselves from the predators. in spring we have hawks, eagles, foxes, etc. the other day a hawk flew low and I was surprised when I saw how fast my silkies were to hide between some barrels. I imagine an aseel roo would fight a hawk.

 

[fluffycrow]

did they fight for no reason? sorry if I ask too many questions. I hate cock fighting (or any other animal) but I fell in love with those chickens. in order not to separate them I sent them all to a friend of mine (we bought an aseel family 1+3 each). unfortunately her farm got flooded and she lost many animals. mostly drowned then some that were wet and cold for days died. 1 aseel roo and 1 hen died.

I need chickens that are able to protect themselves from the predators. in spring we have hawks, eagles, foxes, etc. the other day a hawk flew low and I was surprised when I saw how fast my silkies were to hide between some barrels. I imagine an aseel roo would fight a hawk.

Depends on what you mean by no reason. They didn't have any females. Aseel males and females fight because of their genes, not because they have a reason to, most of the time. I too, hate cock fighting, but I LOVE these birds. I think an aseel female, let alone a male, could take on a hawk. My boy chases any dove he sees, thankfully doves are more agile than him. Otherwise they'd be dead, and eaten by him

 

[chickengr]

Depends on what you mean by no reason. They didn't have any females. Aseel males and females fight because of their genes, not because they have a reason to, most of the time. I too, hate cock fighting, but I LOVE these birds. I think an aseel female, let alone a male, could take on a hawk. My boy chases any dove he sees, thankfully doves are more agile than him. Otherwise they'd be dead, and eaten by him

those aseel guys were left to roam around at my friend's farm. as no roo was in their way they didn't bother to chase them.

my fayoumi boys live in peace as long as they are not in the way. I have 3 boys with 4 girls. the other day a huge pita pinta tried to mate a blue haze (layer hybrid) and a 3 times smaller fayoumi chased him away.