Pied gene in chickens?

[MysteryChicken]

Knock yourself out with proving the pied genes exist in chickens.
Many others thought they would to but no ones done it yet.

Challenge accepted.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Just because I don't agree with you on basically everything concerning chicken genetics and reply with my thoughts which differ from yours doesn't mean its an argument.
Its just a discussion on a subject with differing opinions nothing more.

That's what they call an educated argument. I was sent home once by out smarting a teacher in 3rd grade. My dad thought it was ridiculous.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I do have an idea on how I can bring pied coloring into chicken breeding, but I'll have to test it out first. My idea is crossing mottled, and splash, & see where that takes me.
Guessing the answer is most likely plit pieds, and blue unicolored laced. A combination of both is a probability.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Mottled splash is pretty much gonna give you a bird that is almost entirely white.
One thing you don't get is a pattern like pied is a specific pattern produced by specific genes.
Without those genes you can't produce it.
You may do like others and produce something that is simular or not really simular at all then adopt a pattern name to call it but that doesn't make it the true pattern.
It just makes it clear to others that you don't really know about the true pattern or the genes involved.
Just like that link you provided. They have birchen patterned birds but tagging them as pied. That shows others they really don't know patterns.

 

[ColtHandorf]

I know I shouldn't. I really shouldn't, but I just can't help myself.

The blue mottled bird you posted claiming to be pied is not. It is blue mottled. Period. I have kept chickens, ducks, geese, guineas, turkeys, pheasants, quail, chukar, peacocks, and a large variety of finches and softbills from Zebra and Society Finches to Amethyst Starlings, and hookbills ranging from Parakeets and Cockatiels to Macaws. Some species of birds can display pied. Chickens do not.

On May 31st, you posted the same bird claiming it was a rare Blue Tuxedo Old English Game Bantam:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ifferent-genetics-new-variety.1297846/page-51

"I don't believe everything I read. I do my research, & figure out what's correct, and what's incorrect."

You're right, you don't believe everything you read. You just read until you find something that supports what you want to believe regardless of the individuals with far more knowledge trying to help you even though we all know it's pointless. You have not once taken the advice or knowledge given to you from anyone here.

"I do have an idea on how I can bring pied coloring into chicken breeding, but I'll have to test it out first. My idea is crossing mottled, and splash, & see where that takes me."

More cross-bred chickens displaying a variety of genes. None of which will be pied. That's what you'll get.

"Oh, yeah. That experimental crele chicken I bred is starting to get the distinct red patch on his wings like true crele chickens have, so I believe I've done something right."

Leakage. That's what that's called.

But you go on assuming that you're creating Crele birds without the genes required to make Crele, that you had a really rare Muffed Gamefowl when it was most certainly an EE despite the weak argument you used to support your claim that it was not, that your hatchery quality Silkies are something they aren't, or that despite the mutliple people stating otherwise that your flock must be getting picked off by weasel.

I along with everyone else here sees a pattern and I for one will no longer be offering my assistance or knowledge to someone who so obviously disregards everything said to you because it disagrees with your skewed opinions. Which I believe you call arguing when we do it to you. So good day and good luck with your birds.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Mottled splash is pretty much gonna give you a bird that is almost entirely white.
One thing you don't get is a pattern like pied is a specific pattern produced by specific genes.
Without those genes you can't produce it.
You may do like others and produce something that is simular or not really simular at all then adopt a pattern name to call it but that doesn't make it the true pattern.
It just makes it clear to others that you don't really know about the true pattern or the genes involved.
Just like that link you provided. They have birchen patterned birds but tagging them as pied. That shows others they really don't know patterns.

Like I said pretty much, I'll try, and see where it will take me.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I know I shouldn't. I really shouldn't, but I just can't help myself.

The blue mottled bird you posted claiming to be pied is not. It is blue mottled. Period. I have kept chickens, ducks, geese, guineas, turkeys, pheasants, quail, chukar, peacocks, and a large variety of finches and softbills from Zebra and Society Finches to Amethyst Starlings, and hookbills ranging from Parakeets and Cockatiels to Macaws. Some species of birds can display pied. Chickens do not.

On May 31st, you posted the same bird claiming it was a rare Blue Tuxedo Old English Game Bantam:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ifferent-genetics-new-variety.1297846/page-51

"I don't believe everything I read. I do my research, & figure out what's correct, and what's incorrect."

You're right, you don't believe everything you read. You just read until you find something that supports what you want to believe regardless of the individuals with far more knowledge trying to help you even though we all know it's pointless. You have not once taken the advice or knowledge given to you from anyone here.

"I do have an idea on how I can bring pied coloring into chicken breeding, but I'll have to test it out first. My idea is crossing mottled, and splash, & see where that takes me."

More cross-bred chickens displaying a variety of genes. None of which will be pied. That's what you'll get.

"Oh, yeah. That experimental crele chicken I bred is starting to get the distinct red patch on his wings like true crele chickens have, so I believe I've done something right."

Leakage. That's what that's called.

But you go on assuming that you're creating Crele birds without the genes required to make Crele, that you had a really rare Muffed Gamefowl when it was most certainly an EE despite the weak argument you used to support your claim that it was not, that your hatchery quality Silkies are something they aren't, or that despite the mutliple people stating otherwise that your flock must be getting picked off by weasel.

I along with everyone else here sees a pattern and I for one will no longer be offering my assistance or knowledge to someone who so obviously disregards everything said to you because it disagrees with your skewed opinions. Which I believe you cal arguing when we do it to you. So good day and good luck with your birds.

Everything that I get from you guys with the way you word things doesn't sound like help. I thought tuxedo, and pied were the same due to the dark back, and white, or light grey belly. My "Mottled" chicken has no white spots appearing. This one is clearly mottled.

It's the Mille Fluer D'Uccle X OEGB chick. It's 6-7 weeks old in this photo.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Here's the chick in question.

She's 9 weeks old.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I know I shouldn't. I really shouldn't, but I just can't help myself.

The blue mottled bird you posted claiming to be pied is not. It is blue mottled. Period. I have kept chickens, ducks, geese, guineas, turkeys, pheasants, quail, chukar, peacocks, and a large variety of finches and softbills from Zebra and Society Finches to Amethyst Starlings, and hookbills ranging from Parakeets and Cockatiels to Macaws. Some species of birds can display pied. Chickens do not.

On May 31st, you posted the same bird claiming it was a rare Blue Tuxedo Old English Game Bantam:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ifferent-genetics-new-variety.1297846/page-51

"I don't believe everything I read. I do my research, & figure out what's correct, and what's incorrect."

You're right, you don't believe everything you read. You just read until you find something that supports what you want to believe regardless of the individuals with far more knowledge trying to help you even though we all know it's pointless. You have not once taken the advice or knowledge given to you from anyone here.

"I do have an idea on how I can bring pied coloring into chicken breeding, but I'll have to test it out first. My idea is crossing mottled, and splash, & see where that takes me."

More cross-bred chickens displaying a variety of genes. None of which will be pied. That's what you'll get.

"Oh, yeah. That experimental crele chicken I bred is starting to get the distinct red patch on his wings like true crele chickens have, so I believe I've done something right."

Leakage. That's what that's called.

But you go on assuming that you're creating Crele birds without the genes required to make Crele, that you had a really rare Muffed Gamefowl when it was most certainly an EE despite the weak argument you used to support your claim that it was not, that your hatchery quality Silkies are something they aren't, or that despite the mutliple people stating otherwise that your flock must be getting picked off by weasel.

I along with everyone else here sees a pattern and I for one will no longer be offering my assistance or knowledge to someone who so obviously disregards everything said to you because it disagrees with your skewed opinions. Which I believe you call arguing when we do it to you. So good day and good luck with your birds.

There's two types of crele: Wheaton based, & BBR based. People just preffer one over the other. Question Easter Eggers are friendly, cuddley chickens right?

 

[Cyprus]

Everything that I get from you guys with the way you word things doesn't sound like help. I thought tuxedo, and pied were the same due to the dark back, and white, or light grey belly. My "Mottled" chicken has no white spots appearing. This one is clearly mottled.View attachment 1841980 It's the Mille Fluer D'Uccle X OEGB chick. It's 6-7 weeks old in this photo.

Girl..... Must I really?