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I use permethrin based ready to use product... sold in the equine section at most feed stores... but labeled for use in poultry... which I am unsure if pigeon counts... but think it would. It is not for use on cats....Are there any good safe products that I can use for their loft and on them?
For parasites that aren't effected as well by the permethrin such as some systemic feeders... many of us use pour on Ivermectin in the cattle section. It is not labeled for use in fowl due to not much research available showing residual in egg production for withdrawal times. But it's very effective against lice, mites, and many other things including some internal parasite. Most folks withhold eggs for about two weeks from the last treatment. Please tag or quote me if you help with dosing this medication.I found the normal mite and insect powders and sprays did not harm them. They are really tough little things.
For parasites that aren't effected as well by the permethrin such as some systemic feeders... many of us use pour on Ivermectin in the cattle section. It is not labeled for use in fowl due to not much research available showing residual in egg production for withdrawal times. But it's very effective against lice, mites, and many other things including some internal parasite. Most folks withhold eggs for about two weeks from the last treatment. Please tag or quote me if you help with dosing this medication.
Even when parasites live their entire life cycle on the host.. it is not uncommon for some (eggs on shed feather or bugs) to get knocked off or what have you and be in the bedding looking for a new host. It is a generally good idea to treat the immediate environment if you can. In fact, I researched this further as I don't like giving misinformation and what I found supports the need to treat environment...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4906749/
Copied from that link...
"The life history of P. canariensis has features that make it amenable to study in the lab. Eggs are hatched in uterus in the female and then three stages of larvae feed from milk glands (Harwood and James 1979). The larvae pupate and female flies deposit puparia in the substrate in or around pigeon nests (Arcoverde et al. 2009). The flies will reproduce on captive birds, depositing puparia under layers of newspaper lining pigeon cages. Female P. canariensis produce their first puparium six days after their first blood meal; they produce one puparium about every two days thereafter (Herath 1966, Klei 1971)."
https://wiki.nus.edu.sg/display/TAX/Pseudolynchia+canariensis+-+Pigeon+Fly
According to Merck veterinary manual... permethrin based spray IS effective against said pest AND safe for use...
https://www.merckvetmanual.com/integumentary-system/flies/hippoboscid-or-louse-flies
This source also claims permethrin based spray as effective for current discussion...
https://www.hackemerlofts.com/ask/ask040.html
After extensive research... I stand by my first post. Best wishes!![]()
In some areas, people have misused the permethrin causing resistance by some parasites. But according to all the information I read, it IS effective against pigeon flies.Stand by it by all means. I have to assume you have never had to deal with pigeon flies on your pigeons, because if you had you would know that the research advise you have found is not effective.
Also the life cycle of this parasite is not correct how you describe. They don't even lay eggs to get knocked off the bird or fall off on shed feathers... they give birth do live young that are on the birds body from birth.
Eggs are hatched in uterus in the female and then three stages of larvae feed from milk glands (Harwood and James 1979). The larvae pupate and female flies deposit puparia in the substrate in or around pigeon nests (Arcoverde et al. 2009)