Pigeon Talk

[CCUK]

Yes, it turns out we do get Harker's here, online. I decided to learn a bit more about these combo meds as they can be useful when a firm diagnosis cannot be made or the ideal remedy is not available. I found out that the Avio 4in1 and the Medpet 4in1 are virtually identical containing Furaltadone 20% and Ronidazole 10%(or 7% for Medvet).
Both are said to treat coccidia, canker, paratyphoid(salmonella) and E-coli.

The Harker's 4in1 treats coccidia, canker, worms and external parasites...so a different 4 conditions. It contains Amprolium Hydrochloride, Ronidazole and Ivermectin. (this product won 'Best Bird Product at a recent trade show, according to their site)
I also looked at Harker's 3in 1 product which treats coccidia, canker and worms. (I believe I would prefer the 3/1 as I would rather treat external parasites...well, externally, and there should be no doubt about the diagnosis in this condition,) It contains Ronidazole also and 2 other active ingredients that differ betw the liquid and the tablet version.

So depending on which 4 conditions are suspected one can decide which to use I guess...
Sorryfor the long boring post Don't know if this helps anybody else, but I needed to write it down to get it straight in my mind.

That's a good reply. It's best to be more decisive in what you treat for. I'm glad you can get Harkers over the pond! It is very highly regarded here. To treat any external parasites I have the pigeon bath salts! I bought that after the 4in1. It makes them smell nice as well! In UK it is expensive to buy a singular amprolium product for cocci. I thought I may have had a bout of it some time back and bought the harkers coxoid that is £8 for a 112ml bottle!! Which is OK for the pigeons not so good for hens!! I'm not a big one for medicating as I want their own immune system to rid whatever may be the ailment but sometimes they need that little bit of help. Kind of like me trying to shift this horrible cold I have!

 

[WVduckchick]

Yes, it turns out we do get Harker's here, online. I decided to learn a bit more about these combo meds as they can be useful when a firm diagnosis cannot be made or the ideal remedy is not available. I found out that the Avio 4in1 and the Medpet 4in1 are virtually identical containing Furaltadone 20% and Ronidazole 10%(or 7% for Medvet).
Both are said to treat coccidia, canker, paratyphoid(salmonella) and E-coli.

The Harker's 4in1 treats coccidia, canker, worms and external parasites...so a different 4 conditions. It contains Amprolium Hydrochloride, Ronidazole and Ivermectin. (this product won 'Best Bird Product at a recent trade show, according to their site)
I also looked at Harker's 3in 1 product which treats coccidia, canker and worms. (I believe I would prefer the 3/1 as I would rather treat external parasites...well, externally, and there should be no doubt about the diagnosis in this condition,) It contains Ronidazole also and 2 other active ingredients that differ betw the liquid and the tablet version.

So depending on which 4 conditions are suspected one can decide which to use I guess...
Sorryfor the long boring post Don't know if this helps anybody else, but I needed to write it down to get it straight in my mind.

Not boring! Lol thanks for sharing!!

I bookmarked it so I can find this part of our conversation quickly later

@casportpony may be interested in this stuff too.

 

[casportpony]

Not boring! Lol thanks for sharing!!

I bookmarked it so I can find this part of our conversation quickly later

@casportpony may be interested in this stuff too.

Thanks's for the tag!

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

Not boring! Lol thanks for sharing!!

I bookmarked it so I can find this part of our conversation quickly later

@casportpony may be interested in this stuff too.

X2 good info Bio!!!

CCUK I hope the cold goes away soon!

 

[backyard pigeons]

I may also get some harkers, it would be nice to have a wormer incase. Do you guys worm your birds? Its crazy how much better birds look when they free range/fly. Mine all look kinda gross since they are in lockdown.

 

[WVduckchick]

 

[backyard pigeons]

Is that clyde or the hen? (Whats the hens name?) Its really a cute and good picture!

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[WVduckchick]

Is that clyde or the hen? (Whats the hens name?) Its really a cute and good picture!

That’s Clyde, and the first squab. It’s quite a bit bigger than the other. Crazy how much difference a day can make! He was covering the nest this afternoon. Bonnie is the hen’s name.

 

[Fields Mountain Farm]

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[backyard pigeons]

If to much of a difference in size occurs in the squabs, where one wont be getting enough food, you may need to do warmed up in water frozen peas. Just stick it in its beak and hold it closed and it will swallow. Or take the larger away at feeding time so they feed the smaller one more.

That’s Clyde, and the first squab. It’s quite a bit bigger than the other. Crazy how much difference a day can make! He was covering the nest this afternoon. Bonnie is the hen’s name.