Planned Parenthood not to blame; the truth post #25

[chickened]

Planned parenthood provides abortions among other things and they make no money on women that take the more reliable forms of birth control. It is a simple business decision to them.

In talking to my sister about her drug addicted daughter I suggested she take her to Planned Parenthood for a Depo implant so that no drug addicted babies are born to her. My sister hadn't even heard of it, but was eager to discuss it with my niece. We were both pleasantly surprised when my niece agreed that it was the right thing for her to do.
My sister made an appt. at planned parenthood, explaining the situation. My sister agreed to pay for it too. They said to bring my niece in. Instead of giving my niece a 5 yr. depo implant, they gave her a year supply of the pill. Don't they realize that she's a drug addict and when she's flying high as a kite she's not going to be getting up every morning and thinking "Time to take the pill."?!!!

Not only does the system fail women, it fails children. I just don't understand why.....

 

[RHRanch]

So they provide all kinds of free and cheap care to make money off of the few women that get abortions? I don't think so. I know tons of women that have used planned parenthood, used birth control successfully and none that I know of got abortions, but some did not always use the pill and got pregnant and they had the baby. If thats pp's business plan, its not a very good one.

 

[chickened]

It is cheap because they get a whopping 360 million from Uncle Sam. Abortions cost 450.00 at PP on average and when you compare that to other similar procedures at a private clinic that is cheap. I pay about 250.00 for a physical with blood work. Name me another comparable procedure at that cost.

So they provide all kinds of free and cheap care to make money off of the few women that get abortions? I don't think so. I know tons of women that have used planned parenthood, used birth control successfully and none that I know of got abortions, but some did not always use the pill and got pregnant and they had the baby. If thats pp's business plan, its not a very good one.

 

[duckinnut]

I may be speaking out of turn here but it seems your sister is throwing water on a grease fire. She wants to treat the side effect instead of the problem. Get with your sister and get your niece into rehab some way some how,the rest will take care of itself. What your sister doing is enabling her daughter to do what she wants. She is basically telling her its OK to be an addict but don't come home pregnant. I have known way too many people that screw their life up with drugs and heroin is always the last stop before the graveyard and can name 10 people that lost the battle. The toughest guy I have ever known,never lost a fight in his life even seen him beat a guy after he was stabbed in the chest but he just couldn't beat the needle. Now he is 6ft under. Had a friend from high school who I looked after like a little sister and did anything to protect her. We always hung out together but as we got older we went in different directions, I got married started having kids and lost touch from her. Always wondering where she was and how she was doing. She headed down a slippery slope, cocaine, pills then you guessed it heroin. Her life revolved around it to the point she stole $250,000 from the company she worked for. Sad. One day I was going by where she used to live and was thinking about her. I thought I had seen her in a car but it was either someone that looked like her or my mind screwing with me. About a week later I got a letter from her explaining what was going on in her life. She was in a rehab far from where I thought I saw her and for the past 6 months was making amends and was rebuilding her life from scratch. To sum it up she is one of the lucky ones who come out the other side and not often the case.

Sorry if I rambled on or offended you by telling you or your sister what should be done. Its a subject that's close to my heart but hate to see a life wasted. It's not the system failing your niece it's your sister. It seems your blaming the oven because the fridge is not keeping the food cold.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

I may be speaking out of turn here but it seems your sister is throwing water on a grease fire. She wants to treat the side effect instead of the problem. Get with your sister and get your niece into rehab some way some how,the rest will take care of itself. What your sister doing is enabling her daughter to do what she wants. She is basically telling her its OK to be an addict but don't come home pregnant. I have known way too many people that screw their life up with drugs and heroin is always the last stop before the graveyard and can name 10 people that lost the battle. The toughest guy I have ever known,never lost a fight in his life even seen him beat a guy after he was stabbed in the chest but he just couldn't beat the needle. Now he is 6ft under. Had a friend from high school who I looked after like a little sister and did anything to protect her. We always hung out together but as we got older we went in different directions, I got married started having kids and lost touch from her. Always wondering where she was and how she was doing. She headed down a slippery slope, cocaine, pills then you guessed it heroin. Her life revolved around it to the point she stole $250,000 from the company she worked for. Sad. One day I was going by where she used to live and was thinking about her. I thought I had seen her in a car but it was either someone that looked like her or my mind screwing with me. About a week later I got a letter from her explaining what was going on in her life. She was in a rehab far from where I thought I saw her and for the past 6 months was making amends and was rebuilding her life from scratch. To sum it up she is one of the lucky ones who come out the other side and not often the case.

Sorry if I rambled on or offended you by telling you or your sister what should be done. Its a subject that's close to my heart but hate to see a life wasted. It's not the system failing your niece it's your sister. It seems your blaming the oven because the fridge is not keeping the food cold.

No you haven't offended me, just spoke without enough information. My sister and her husband have lost all their life savings by putting my niece in rehab TWICE.

They attend NA support group meetings weekly. They are doing all that they can do legally. My family knows that my niece may not survive this and it's tearing us apart. We don't have any more control over what she does, despite all our efforts to help her. What we are now doing is damage control. Because I know that inside that girl is a conscience. And I know that if she were to give birth to a child drug addicted or with serious health problems...THEN got clean, knowing that she did this to her child would most likely send her spiraling back to where she was.

We love her and we want to help her as much as we can. As proven by PP though, we can't make choices for her. I just learned from my sister that while in the room at PP with the doctor she told the doctor that she DIDN'T WANT the implant, just the pills. Well, I guess that she did dupe her mom into believing that she wanted to do the right thing.

Why my concern with a child? Because I see these children each day at the elementary school. They struggle every day, many never will be independent, living with grandparents too old to be there for them when they reach adulthood. I was helping in my child's kindergarden class when a little boy looked at me and said "My mom loves drugs more than she loves me." I've read the stories about children born to addicts that are too wrapped up in their addiction that they don't notice that the baby is being molested by all the guys coming through the front door, or the kid is eating the stuff off the coffee table and goes into cardiac arrest because mom is strung out. I'm not unsympathetic to the drug addict, lets just say I'm more sympathetic to the child born to the drug addict.

THIS POST IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PRO/ANTI ABORTION PLATFORM, I WILL ASK THE MODERATORS TO LOCK THIS THREAD IF IT STARTS TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION



I thank all of you for speaking with kindness and compassion!

 

[chickened]

There are alternative organizations out there for drug addiction other than PP.

 

[RHRanch]

It is cheap because they get a whopping 360 million from Uncle Sam. Abortions cost 450.00 at PP on average and when you compare that to other similar procedures at a private clinic that is cheap. I pay about 250.00 for a physical with blood work. Name me another comparable procedure at that cost.

 

[RHRanch]

No you haven't offended me, just spoke without enough information. My sister and her husband have lost all their life savings by putting my niece in rehab TWICE.
They attend NA support group meetings weekly. They are doing all that they can do legally. My family knows that my niece may not survive this and it's tearing us apart. We don't have any more control over what she does, despite all our efforts to help her. What we are now doing is damage control. Because I know that inside that girl is a conscience. And I know that if she were to give birth to a child drug addicted or with serious health problems...THEN got clean, knowing that she did this to her child would most likely send her spiraling back to where she was.
We love her and we want to help her as much as we can. As proven by PP though, we can't make choices for her. I just learned from my sister that while in the room at PP with the doctor she told the doctor that she DIDN'T WANT the implant, just the pills. Well, I guess that she did dupe her mom into believing that she wanted to do the right thing.
Why my concern with a child? Because I see these children each day at the elementary school. They struggle every day, many never will be independent, living with grandparents too old to be there for them when they reach adulthood. I was helping in my child's kindergarden class when a little boy looked at me and said "My mom loves drugs more than she loves me." I've read the stories about children born to addicts that are too wrapped up in their addiction that they don't notice that the baby is being molested by all the guys coming through the front door, or the kid is eating the stuff off the coffee table and goes into cardiac arrest because mom is strung out. I'm not unsympathetic to the drug addict, lets just say I'm more sympathetic to the child born to the drug addict.
THIS POST IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PRO/ANTI ABORTION PLATFORM, I WILL ASK THE MODERATORS TO LOCK THIS THREAD IF IT STARTS TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION


I thank all of you for speaking with kindness and compassion!

I am really sorry that your niece didn't get the long-term birth control.... That must be really hard for you and your sister.

 

[duckinnut]

Well I still think that birth control is last on the list of problems your niece has. The pills,norplant,IUD or depo shot is not going to save her life.I much as I hate to say it she needs an intervention and soon. She needs long term care of at least a year and maybe longer. If she refuses to get help at the time of the intervention everyone just needs to turn their back on her. Because you can try to help an addict all you want but if they don't want to help themselves you are wasting your time to a point to where you are enabling them. I have seen the behavior of of staying clean for a couple of days saying your done and then go right back at. Not only have I seen it but also lived it as I battle alcohol every day. I have spent time in a program and it sucks but I am better for it. Just like they say one day at a time. But some days I have to break it down to hours at a time. Most people have to hit rock bottom before they begin the ascent. That's where I landed and stood to lose everything I worked hard for. My DW gave me the ultimatum get help or get out. Just the push I needed, she played the enabler and all the roles and was done with it. Not that was an official intervention but was clear enough as everyone and everything I loved was about to turn their back and take away it all.

Seeing that your sister has exhaust their finances trying to help your niece should be reason enough for an intervention. I know it comes with a stigma but I know it were one of my kids I would rather have a child and a stigma than nothing. There has to be resources available somewhere. I know she has been in rehab twice but sometime its 3,4,5 times before it sticks. Call your State mental health dept. I know this sounds hokey but call the Dr Phil show, the show INTERVENTION, there has to be some help somewhere. I know it is a hard thing to do to turn your back on someone whom you love but she is getting to the point to where she is tearing the family to shreds to feed her addiction. As tough as it is you have to cut her loose to save the rest. It's simple GET HELP or GET OUT.

I can see your point about children born to and with addiction and that's not there fault understandably. Not knowing your niece and how deep she is in but she might not even need the birth control because she might lose to the addiction. The addiction needs to be addressed first and foremost. Well if she does get pregnant cross that bridge when you get to it. Worry about the tornado that is in front of you and not the one in the next state.

 

[KristyHall]

In talking to my sister about her drug addicted daughter I suggested she take her to Planned Parenthood for a Depo implant so that no drug addicted babies are born to her. My sister hadn't even heard of it, but was eager to discuss it with my niece. We were both pleasantly surprised when my niece agreed that it was the right thing for her to do.
My sister made an appt. at planned parenthood, explaining the situation. My sister agreed to pay for it too. They said to bring my niece in. Instead of giving my niece a 5 yr. depo implant, they gave her a year supply of the pill. Don't they realize that she's a drug addict and when she's flying high as a kite she's not going to be getting up every morning and thinking "Time to take the pill."?!!!

Not only does the system fail women, it fails children. I just don't understand why.....

This must be a very difficult and frustrating time for you, your niece and your sister.