Post Phoenix Pics Please

[dvang3]

I havent taken any yet Dou, waiting on them to finish growing out and feathering up myself. It takes so long to go threw all the birds I have. I like to get a good pic of all of them or at least of each pen. I have several hundred on my website though. Just click on the long tail photo link in their section. Will load some on here when I get time too, and some new ones when I get some new pics. I usually do it late October early November.

Hehehe I've been through all of them Aubrey! Haha

 

[dvang3]

How about some of my nonmolting American Longtails..





couple phoenix cockerels..

Niceeeee!
Amanda, how do you test for NM ?

 

[onagadori]

Niceeeee!
Amanda, how do you test for NM ?

You place the roosters away from hens, tomebaku or individual stalls. And then you just wait to see if their blood feathers dry up and molt of remain. Each year, they molt the normal body feathers, but non thier blood feathers. There are varying degrees of nonmolting. Some will keep their saddles in blood also..

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

hah, figured you had Dou, I'll be sure to let you know once I get some more.

Amanda, those are looking great, I especially like the last 2

 

[onagadori]

hah, figured you had Dou, I'll be sure to let you know once I get some more.

Amanda, those are looking great, I especially like the last 2

Thanks Aubrey. The last one is being sold.. Birchen isn't really my color..

 

[dvang3]

You place the roosters away from hens, tomebaku or individual stalls. And then you just wait to see if their blood feathers dry up and molt of remain. Each year, they molt the normal body feathers, but non thier blood feathers. There are varying degrees of nonmolting. Some will keep their saddles in blood also..

Do they have to be away from others where they can't see or hear other chickens? That's what I have heard about onagadori's
Question, do yokohama's carry NM gene? Are those with the pea comb phoenix x yokohamas?

 

[dvang3]

hah, figured you had Dou, I'll be sure to let you know once I get some more.

Amanda, those are looking great, I especially like the last 2

Hehehe awesome! I'll be waiting... impatiently

 

[onagadori]

Do they have to be away from others where they can't see or hear other chickens? That's what I have heard about onagadori's
Question, do yokohama's carry NM gene? Are those with the pea comb phoenix x yokohamas?

I have found they don't have to be isolated to themselves. I keep my roosters together. That may be true for some nonmolters. Mine don't seem to mind companionship. Though I don't allow them to touch each other..
Yes, My yokohamas carry NM gene. I assume this is due to onagadori in their makeup. No, they are not phoenix x yokohama. They have aproximately 5 or 6 breeds infused into them. This makes them very hardy. I did use one of the splash American Longtail roosters to cross to my red shouldered yokohamas and got some perfect redshouldered yokohama type birds but with blue legs. I will be using those to improve the state of yokohamas in the country.. Thanks for asking.

 

[dvang3]

I have found they don't have to be isolated to themselves. I keep my roosters together. That may be true for some nonmolters. Mine don't seem to mind companionship. Though I don't allow them to touch each other..
Yes, My yokohamas carry NM gene. I assume this is due to onagadori in their makeup. No, they are not phoenix x yokohama. They have aproximately 5 or 6 breeds infused into them. This makes them very hardy. I did use one of the splash American Longtail roosters to cross to my red shouldered yokohamas and got some perfect redshouldered yokohama type birds but with blue legs. I will be using those to improve the state of yokohamas in the country.. Thanks for asking.

Ouuu interesting! Thanks for sharing! I would love to know more!

So are most Yokohama's NM ? Or did you create Yokohama's that are NM with Onagadori in their blood?
Also what other breeds did you use to make them hardier?
So interesting...

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yes Dou, from what I have read and heard from others with them, the higher percentage onagadori blood a non molter has, the more of an issue with isolation. A normal nm phoenix type bird will be ok just in a pen by himself but best with no hens.
The higher the percentage goes, the more isolated they need to be IF you want him to reach his fullest potential.
Anything that would trigger testosterone levels to spike, will also trigger molting in them.

So yes a pure onagadori should be out of sight and sound of all birds, even crowing roosters. But just to test a nm phoenix, a pen away from hens will be fine.

Again, this isnt first hand knowledge on my part, just what I have read and had those with them tell me.

That being said, the white male I have from Cy has been in a breeding pen for 2 years, since I got him as a yearling. He's in hard feather finally now, but has never molted since he's been here He'll be 3 this spring.