Post Phoenix Pics Please

[onagadori]

need to take a couple. It's a beautiful pair of project birds I got from Toni a little while back. They grew up really nice, and are some of those that I can go phoenix and ohiki with so that was great. The pullet grew up to be nearly perfect mottled in pattern. They're on the to do list of pictures

I will be looking forward to the to do list of pics.. LOL>

 

[Bentley]

need to take a couple. It's a beautiful pair of project birds I got from Toni a little while back. They grew up really nice, and are some of those that I can go phoenix and ohiki with so that was great. The pullet grew up to be nearly perfect mottled in pattern. They're on the to do list of pictures

Can't wait to see pics. Love poultry genetics and seeing what can't be done with intense selection. It's almost limitless in possibilities!!!!!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

same here, Im an addict for sure. will get yall some pics as soon as I can

thanks for clearing up the silver verses silver duckwing thing too. I had often wondered what the difference was

 

[dvang3]

Hey Aubrey,
It's mid october... Hehe I've been waiting so patiently
Is it time yet?!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

na, most are mid molt right now. few more weeks yet

 

[Toni-Marie]

Very nice guys!...Love that little red boy also...I bet he will be awsome for sure...TM

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

well getting ready to head to the brooder, figured I'd post a couple pics before I did while they were still in the hatcher. Most are phoenix and ohiki but there's a few d'anver and a sumatra or two in there too





you can see a couple of the dun gingers in the bottom left corner and a dom white red one there too, it's an ohiki though

 

[Phoenix Farms]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, don't most Phoenixes molt every two years instead of every year? Because right now all of the birds except for my Phoenixes are molting.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, don't most Phoenixes molt every two years instead of every year? Because right now all of the birds except for my Phoenixes are molting.

no.
a phoenix by direct definition of the breed should molt every year.

But that's just what the people who wrote the book say, and many lines do, in fact all of them do if they dont have NM in them to some degree.
Most of us with them though strive to breed for longer periods between molts. To get this, some degree of non molting ( NM ) genes need to be added.
Now by "show" definition this is no longer a true phoenix, even though really it is, it just has NM genes in it.

You can tell these birds pretty quick by how long they stay in blood feathering in the tail and saddles. Just fold the feather out of the way and look for the blood filled quill. If it molts, regrows a tail and is quickly back in hard feather (it'll look white to pinkish in most colors) Then it's just a by the book phoenix.

Like I said though, most anyone who is breeding phoenix, is breeding them for tail and saddle lenght, so for the standard to condemn that is kinda silly to me. So in my opinion, for yours to still be in feather is a good thing as long as it's not hard already. Doesn't do much good to hold them 2 years if they aren't growing any more.
Catch one up and see if you still have blood feathering or not, and you'll know.

Some of my annual molters still ha vent dropped any yet, but it's getting to be that time, so wont be long.

 

[Phoenix Farms]

I checked and no blood feathers. All but one are still in their first year but onehen is over a year. I'm guessing about 1-1 1/2 years. My other seven pullets are under the age of a year and do is my roo. Does that mean they won't molt?