Pumpkin Hulsey Color Genetics?

[DTchickens]

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One little bit this post leaves out is that once a few other guys got the Hulseys a touch of Hatch blood was added. Which is why some may come green legged (or with a touch of green).

-Daniel.

 

[Goldenbirchens]

Lets say that someone raises Registered black Angus Cows. Someone else raises registered black Angus but wanted a little more milk in the heifers so bred them to a Holstein. He now has registered Spotted Angus Cows.. Hmmm.??? How many of these Angus do you want??

 

[Henk69]

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Trick question. A heifer does not give milk yet.

 

[Chris09]

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Trick question. A heifer does not give milk yet.

You saw that also..
She wouldn't be producing milk. When she calved and producing milk she is cow and no longer a heifer...

It would be that the person was selling Registered Black Angus Cattle and not Registered Black Angus Cows

Chris

 

[ChooksChick]

Henk, have you given any more thought to what the underlying genes might be in the Pumpkin coloring? It's been a while since this thread was up and I'm curious as to whether you've observed more or have more thoughts on this.

 

[Henk69]

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I still think it is some kind of henny feathering effect on wheaten (or maybe duckwing) with a range of red enhancers on a silver, het silver or gold base.
It could be Db removing the black breast coloring but allowing these red effects. Columbia (Co) would not permit that i.m.o.

I would be very tempted to resolve their genes. Fortunately there are none in my neighbourhood, because I have way too many project possibilities anyway...

 

[Vcomb]

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different registries have different rules. A friend of mine raised Boer goats (sp?) and said something like females can be registered at 1/2 blood, but males need to be 15/16ths before they can be registered. Swiss cows can carry a percentage of blood of another breed as well. Our herd was all different percentages of Holsteins and Swiss and had we chose to register we could have entered a program to work towards registering our cross bred stock.

 

[Vcomb]

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I still think it is some kind of henny feathering effect on wheaten (or maybe duckwing) with a range of red enhancers on a silver, het silver or gold base.
It could be Db removing the black breast coloring but allowing these red effects. Columbia (Co) would not permit that i.m.o.

I would be very tempted to resolve their genes. Fortunately there are none in my neighbourhood, because I have way too many project possibilities anyway...

Henk,

Most of the Yellow Birchens and Pumpkins I've seen are wheaton based. What's interesting is I often see hens of the pumpkin variety who could pass for a normal wheaton hen yet produce pumpkin male offspring.

 

[ChooksChick]

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I still think it is some kind of henny feathering effect on wheaten (or maybe duckwing) with a range of red enhancers on a silver, het silver or gold base.
It could be Db removing the black breast coloring but allowing these red effects. Columbia (Co) would not permit that i.m.o.

I would be very tempted to resolve their genes. Fortunately there are none in my neighbourhood, because I have way too many project possibilities anyway...

I was almost thinking there was some sort of Dun/Khaki thing going on in the way some are white. It's very confusing to me how the tail gets that sort of dilution.

 

[Vcomb]

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I still think it is some kind of henny feathering effect on wheaten (or maybe duckwing) with a range of red enhancers on a silver, het silver or gold base.
It could be Db removing the black breast coloring but allowing these red effects. Columbia (Co) would not permit that i.m.o.

I would be very tempted to resolve their genes. Fortunately there are none in my neighbourhood, because I have way too many project possibilities anyway...

I was almost thinking there was some sort of Dun/Khaki thing going on in the way some are white. It's very confusing to me how the tail gets that sort of dilution.

there is some sort of dun coloration that shows in some families of gamefowl. In the old days in the UK there were no chocolates or blues - they were called blue duns. which to me suggests that these birds might have expressed both colors producing a dusky grey-brown-blue hue.

here's a blue x chocolate grey roo for comparison:

and a pair of chocolate greys (chocolate grey is a bloodline so they don't all come this color. likewise not all birds this color are of the chocolate grey bloodline).