No GMO in my food or my animals' feed. They can stick their mutations where the sun doesn't shine.
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He was brought up several pages back, which once more shows it's all the anti's have to offer and it PROVES NOTHING
You need to read past the headlines and get all the details before you offer something as "proof"
From Pusztai himself:
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http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Arpad-Pusztai-Potato.htm
No, it did not:, and all this has been posted in the thread before:
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http://www.hangthebankers.com/eu-rejects-french-report-linking-gm-maize-to-cancer/
Why do you think repeating it will make it true?
Quote: I often have HUGE problems getting posts to turn out the way I typed them
It's an issue with the FORUM SOFTWARE itself.
It does strange things with both spacing and font sizes for me, especially if I copy and paste from another site
Sometimes it works just as it should, and other days, not at all
It's an issue with the FORUM SOFTWARE itself.
It does strange things with both spacing and font sizes for me, especially if I copy and paste from another site
Sometimes it works just as it should, and other days, not at all
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Greetings Bear Foot. I'm skeptical about everything I read. I prefer not to use GMO feeds with my birds, dogs, cats, sheep, or even myself. I cannot see any benefit from altering the genetic codes of vegetables, grains, and fruits that have been beneficial to us from the very beginning. I also resent the fact that huge outfits like Monsanto can override Fed courts when it comes to planting experimental crops that have caused runaway crop plague and invasiveness to non GMO crops.The trial tests run by those on their payroll are short term, and the long term effects of GMO feed deserve more observation. We should maintain the liberty of choice in this matter.
The greenie extremism and popularized group-think which has paved the way for the insane regulations, and development of the EPA to steal more of our money, is certainly no solution to the problem. But humans and their livestock have done very well without GM mutations for thousands of years.
The greenie extremism and popularized group-think which has paved the way for the insane regulations, and development of the EPA to steal more of our money, is certainly no solution to the problem. But humans and their livestock have done very well without GM mutations for thousands of years.
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I looked at both sides of the vaccine issue. I noticed that the rates of complications from vaccines were about equal to the rates of complications from getting diseases; such as meningitis from having measles. It seems a lose-lose or perhaps a win-win depending on how you look at it. I am curious on your opinion about the lack of autism in the Amish population.
The first statement is untrue, I'm not sure what data that is from but it's very clear that vaccines are of great benefit. It really bugs me because there are segments of the population who cannot be vaccinated, for example children with leukemia. Then they have be exposed to all these perfectly preventable diseases because there are other segments of society who were misinformed and send their sick, unvaccinated children to school to spread the illnesses to those kids who don't have a choice about vaccinations. It's frankly irresponsible. Now we have kids with illnesses we haven't seen in ages and kids who have already compromised immune systems being exposed to them, life-threatening to them, because somebody else's parents were suspicious of vaccines.
On the Amish- a common logical fallacy is that correlation equates corroboration. We call it "post hoc ergo propter hoc" formally. This is not the case. For your example specifically there can be number of reasons why a population doesn't appear to have much autism. The Amish are extremes- their entire lifestyle is very different than most modern people. If I apply your logical fallacy likewise to the Amish, one could say that 1. Amish do not get vaccines 2. Amish have high rates of dwarfism therefore 3. Not getting vaccinated causes dwarfism. Right? Wrong of course, they have higher rates of dwarfism and a number of other genetic diseases/disorders because they are inbred (and I say that clinically, not as a derogative). It is absolutely 100% untrue that vaccines cause autism. The main problem with that study you refer to was the same flawed logic actually. He found kids with autism, found they were all vaccinated as is common practice and said a>b and b>c thus a>c. Cherry picking data and no meaningful controls. They also eat food, breathe air, were exposed to sunlight and were from Europe. Does that imply any of those things cause autism? Of course not. And that one single unethical doctor started this whole hysteria. Read carefully, you will see that just like GMOs (and in fact vaccines are GMOs) all subsequent literature eventually leads back to that one rotten apple buried in the bottom of the barrel.
Oooh look! A real paragraph!
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So true. In my mind it's because the sciences have become so technical that it is difficult to convey what is actually going on to the public so there is a big information gap that just keeps growing. It's frustrating.
A phenylalanine is TTT whether your body coded it or a lab somewhere hijacked a bacterium to do it for you. And trust me when I say you would be grateful if you needed that recombinant bacteria to build something for you. I will refer again to diabetics requiring insulin. Corporate (rather monetary) control over governments is the actual problem people get upset over hence all the frequent references to mansanto. It's a case of misplaced blame- anger at the science instead of the greedy misapplication of it.
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How about something NOT from a propaganda website? Gotta learn how discern real data from social media. If any website can be proof I can also prove Jesus rode a dinosaur and aliens regularly visit earth, perhaps to chat with sasquatch.
Easy benefits found in medicine all the time. See my example above.
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