Raising and Growing Our Organic and Not- So-Organic Foods

[Leahs Mom]

I sprout as well - especially during the winter.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I sprout as well - especially during the winter.

I've only just started a few days ago but I'm already having fun

On a few of the grains it mentions antinutrient properties and needing to be cooked or heat treated or whatever first.. I wonder if sprouting gets rid of those antinutrient properties too? Or if it has to/can only be cooked

 

[Leahs Mom]

If the list states the need to cook, sprouting won't take care of it.

I have a general policy - if something needs to be cooked to rid it of anti-nutrients, then it's something that a chicken wouldn't eat in a wild state. Therefore I won't feed it.

For me, that includes soy, which is toxic if given raw. So I have never fed my birds soy-containing feeds.

There are some items that sprouting does help. But not the ones that must be cooked.

 

[ShrekDawg]

If the list states the need to cook, sprouting won't take care of it.

I have a general policy - if something needs to be cooked to rid it of anti-nutrients, then it's something that a chicken wouldn't eat in a wild state. Therefore I won't feed it.

For me, that includes soy, which is toxic if given raw. So I have never fed my birds soy-containing feeds.

There are some items that sprouting does help. But not the ones that must be cooked.

Thanks! That seems like a good policy. I don't feed a soy feed but mostly cause I heard all the hype on how it's bad, never really heard why.

I was just wondering because I've seen at least a few articles for humans stating how grains and nuts and stuff are supposedly ~so~ bad for people because of the antinutrients, tannins, them binding stuff, whatever, and how they need to be prepared properly and it often seems that sprouting or even just soaking overnight is touted as one of those methods and sort of a cure all thing. So I didn't know if it was true or not or if it would be the same for chickens. Do they even have the same antinutrient properties for humans?

And also, while it wouldn't be good as a main part of the diet, would they be alright as a treat uncooked? Cause I already sprouted them.

Or maybe I could just toss them in the oven, idk.

But it's not very much.

 

[Leahs Mom]

There are many grains, nuts, seeds that are very much enhanced by sprouting. But there are a few - like kidney beans, soy, etc., that it just doesn't work for. That's why it's good to take a look at those lists whenever you want to try something and get the info.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Sprouting these currently

And just got these in the mail today.

 

[ShrekDawg]

There are many grains, nuts, seeds that are very much enhanced by sprouting. But there are a few - like kidney beans, soy, etc., that it just doesn't work for. That's why it's good to take a look at those lists whenever you want to try something and get the info.

Ah okay, that makes sense. Well, I'm not sprouting any of those thankfully but I was surprised that amarinth, quinoa, and sorghum need to be or are better cooked

 

[Arielle2]

Ok...took a quick look.

What do you think about chickens picking up cherry pits? Your opinion @Arielle2

From a couple sources, cherries are high in B17. As there is no information to help us, less is better, imo. And I know I will eventually find out if a bunch of my chickens die off.

I do have concerns if this is their sole food.

But like us, eating the fruit too balances the volume of pits. ANd the birds need more than just fruit each day which brings the actually number of pits a day down to a few.

How do the wild birds deal with eating the chokecherries??????

FYI cherry leaves can be toxic too--- in horses this is a problem when the leaves fall off and dry then the horses eat them. Blanking on the chemical that is toxic.

Many factors involved to reach a toxic load.

 

[Arielle2]

Wow I didn't realize so much had it! I found this

https://food.ndtv.com/health/vitamin-b17-sources-and-why-you-must-not-skip-them-1679476

I think you'd habe to eat a LOT of apples or whatever anyway to experience issues. And likely need to crush the seeds for the issues to occur. Plus a lot of that stuff, like studies, is pure cyanide, right?

They claim it can cure cancer but it hasn't really been proven or had positive results in animals. I think it was banned by the FDA? At least according to that website but people still think it has benefits. Banned as a cancer treatment that is. Probably cause of the no result thing and public fear?

I had no idea there was such a big debate or controversy or whatever over it though. Figured it was widely known/accepted apple seeds were toxic or this stuff was "bad" but apparently maybe not?

I'm thinking it's like anything else.. fine in moderation.



For example, I'm trying to start eating healthier and I'm thinking I'm going to eat like more clean/less processed stuff so like fruits, veggies, eggs, etc. And my thinking, idk if it's correct, is as long as I'm eating a balanced, wide variety of foods it should be fine and not an issue??

Like obviously if I ate only apple seeds or only sorghum or whatever it might be bad eventually but heck, I bet even "healthy" foods would be bad if I ate only that or only cookies. Even water and oxygen are bad in too high of quantities or pure (neither is ever pure in normal circumstances)

Wide variety is always a good thing. Each food has its own unique phytochemicals etc, that are very important to good health.

Learn which might agrrivate an already exisiting sensitivity, disease, etc.

When I eat an apple, I chew the seeds up.

The bitter almonds pits have a known limit of 5 a day. Most of the bitter almonds in the US have been destroyed bc/ government and pubic back lash. In Europe totally different situation.

Lots of well accepted vegies sources!!!

 

[Arielle2]

Fresh sprouts are ALWAYS a good thing. Only sprout what you can eat.

When I have too many sprouts to eat, I douse them with a vinegar based salad dressing to preserve them. Of course they develop a cooked like quality due to the acid.