Red Wolves? Really? *UPDATE* Now its black coyotes! pg. 5

[Chikn-Chik]

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I have 2 have cameras lol and recently got a pic of a coyote

 

[zazouse]

I know for a fact there are red wolves in my area, i have seen a pair growing up here in the last 3 years and have even walk up up on them making my rounds more that once.
Just this morning i was making my rounds and found some duck feathers just out of the safe zone, i called one of my dog and got her on the trail and she took me right to them, i was no more than 30 feet from them when she went to barking they had turned and were headed to me so i hollered and they turned and ran the other way with my dog behind them, i call here and she came back tail wagging and ready to finish the chase.
I love this dog she is the best tracking dog on the place and she is the best varmit dog on the place.

Most of the time i have my gun, not that i would shoot them but for my own safety in case they decided to attack my dog or dogs but they run form my dogs.

I killed one in my goat barn 10 years ago, it had gone in and i did not know it, when i went in it could not get away and it looked awful, i walked out shut the door and went and got my gun, when i got in there i could not see it as i took another step i head a rustling under some old nest boxes mounted on the stall wall , i stepped over to the side and took aim and shot, got that girl running all over that barn as i could not get a clear kill shot under them boxes, it took another shot to the head before she went down. she was in potful shape and i think she was seeking cover from the cold .

What i am saying is people can say what they want but i have seen them for myself as have my neighbors, i have rarely loose anything to them, i lost more to a bobcat till my dogs took care of it and this is the first kill by the wolves in a very long time, Muscovy ducks don't quack and my dogs never heard a sound or they would have been on it.

The good thing about having them here is i do not have coyotes anywhere near here because the wolves keep them away
so if they get a bird once in a while that is out of the safe zone i can live with that.

They are big and they are beautiful and seeing one so close this morning made my day even if i lost a duck.

 

[Frosty]

I don't know about red wolves (which if I recall genetic testing is suggesting could be a wolf/coyote hybrid), but if you look at a coyote track you will see a distinct X in the track. It will go from along the pad and continue along the inside edges of the outer toes. You can see it in the drawing posted earlier in this thread, or here is a pic of a coyote track in the snow that I took last fall...



To show the X I am talking about, here is the same pic with it marked

 

[zazouse]

Nice tracks
Never seen any like that here, how big are they?

 

[Frosty]

Nice tracks
Never seen any like that here, how big are they?

If you are asking about my snow tracks, they were maybe around 2"? I took that about 2 months ago, it was along the outside of my electric poultry netting where I had the chickens in the garden. I took pictures so that I could come in and ID them, found a few sites that told about the X and showed pictures of it so that made it easy for me. That night the birds were moved back to the permanent building.

 

[woodmort]

An observation on this and similar posts: We have lived such an urban existence for so long that we get all excited when we think there are wild things out there that we let our imaginations get the best of us. Either we misinterpret the evidence or are so naive that we are hoaxed into believing something that isn't there--either by others' misinterpretation, misinformation or deliberate misrepresentation. In all probability those are dog tracks since that is the most common type of canine around. Second guess would be a large coyote--yes the eastern coyote is larger than it's western counterpart--but there would also be other coyote evidence around like howling, for example. Third would be a red wolf but since they are not only rare but, possibly a coyote cross, that I'd be very skeptical. Finally, a Grey wolf would be impossible given the location--they just aren't in that area--period! Of course would be some prankster with a couple of wolf feet making tracks in the mud.

 

[Frosty]

An observation on this and similar posts: We have lived such an urban existence for so long that we get all excited when we think there are wild things out there that we let our imaginations get the best of us. Either we misinterpret the evidence or are so naive that we are hoaxed into believing something that isn't there--either by others' misinterpretation, misinformation or deliberate misrepresentation. In all probability those are dog tracks since that is the most common type of canine around. Second guess would be a large coyote--yes the eastern coyote is larger than it's western counterpart--but there would also be other coyote evidence around like howling, for example. Third would be a red wolf but since they are not only rare but, possibly a coyote cross, that I'd be very skeptical. Finally, a Grey wolf would be impossible given the location--they just aren't in that area--period! Of course would be some prankster with a couple of wolf feet making tracks in the mud.

I don't know, woodmort... The OP said they have heard howling that wasn't like the usual yipping of coyotes, and one of the earlier posts said there were Red Wolves released in the area and there is an approximate population of 250 so I think it would be possible. I was looking at the pics again and the bottom two (which I believe are the same track) does look like it has the 'x' with the toe/pad arrangement that a coyote track has. If it were me, I would just make sure the chickens are secure. It could have just been passing through.

The coyote that left the prints that I posted earlier hasn't been seen since. I don't hate those kinds of predators like I hate raccoons. They are just trying to survive and it's my responsibility to keep my critters safe from them. I only hate raccoons because they will kill everything they can catch if they get in the pen. The canine predators up here tend to nab one when they want food, then they leave. Yes, they will be back later and I need to secure my birds from them, but it isn't senseless killing so I leave them alone for the most part.

 

[Guinea and Chicken raiser]

well just by going by the pawprint alone doesn't say what color the wolf is... but def. look like wolf prints.. doesn't matter if it's wolf, coyote or cougar print... it's still a predator that will love to kill some of your chickens. so you should get a camera to record and find out what it is and get it away from your flock.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

An observation on this and similar posts: We have lived such an urban existence for so long that we get all excited when we think there are wild things out there that we let our imaginations get the best of us. Either we misinterpret the evidence or are so naive that we are hoaxed into believing something that isn't there--either by others' misinterpretation, misinformation or deliberate misrepresentation. In all probability those are dog tracks since that is the most common type of canine around. Second guess would be a large coyote--yes the eastern coyote is larger than it's western counterpart--but there would also be other coyote evidence around like howling, for example. Third would be a red wolf but since they are not only rare but, possibly a coyote cross, that I'd be very skeptical. Finally, a Grey wolf would be impossible given the location--they just aren't in that area--period! Of course would be some prankster with a couple of wolf feet making tracks in the mud.

Aww, fudge. and I was about ready to say they look like African lion tracks--big, heavy animal, you know. So that is what I thought they MUST be.

 

[woodmort]

I don't know, woodmort... The OP said they have heard howling that wasn't like the usual yipping of coyotes, and one of the earlier posts said there were Red Wolves released in the area and there is an approximate population of 250 so I think it would be possible. I was looking at the pics again and the bottom two (which I believe are the same track) does look like it has the 'x' with the toe/pad arrangement that a coyote track has. If it were me, I would just make sure the chickens are secure. It could have just been passing through.

The coyote that left the prints that I posted earlier hasn't been seen since. I don't hate those kinds of predators like I hate raccoons. They are just trying to survive and it's my responsibility to keep my critters safe from them. I only hate raccoons because they will kill everything they can catch if they get in the pen. The canine predators up here tend to nab one when they want food, then they leave. Yes, they will be back later and I need to secure my birds from them, but it isn't senseless killing so I leave them alone for the most part.

Find some of the articles--many circulated on posts about coyotes in this section--on the relationship between red wolves and Eastern coyotes. The general consensus of those that have studied them is that the red wolf is a coyote-cross and no longer a pure animal. Likewise most Eastern coyotes show signs of having grey wolves in their ancestry. Either of these may account for the foot size and the odd howling. Size-wise red wolves and the Eastern coyotes are very similar. I still maintain that there is no way it can be a grey wolf that far from their known range. I also guess that those tracks were made, in all probability, by a domestic dog.