Red Wolves? Really? *UPDATE* Now its black coyotes! pg. 5

[Frosty]

Find some of the articles--many circulated on posts about coyotes in this section--on the relationship between red wolves and Eastern coyotes. The general consensus of those that have studied them is that the red wolf is a coyote-cross and no longer a pure animal. Likewise most Eastern coyotes show signs of having grey wolves in their ancestry. Either of these may account for the foot size and the odd howling. Size-wise red wolves and the Eastern coyotes are very similar. I still maintain that there is no way it can be a grey wolf that far from their known range. I also guess that those tracks were made, in all probability, by a domestic dog.

I already said (post #33) that if I recall genetic testing suggested Red Wolves were a wolf/coyote hybrid, I am not arguing there. And nobody said they were grey wolf tracks, the topic heading said Red Wolf. Like I said though, the one track does look like a coyote track (the way the toes are situated on the paw) so I am not sure it's a dog track. I wasn't thinking coyote, probably because the coyotes around here are about the size of a Border Collie. I am not familiar with the Eastern Coyotes or what size their prints would be. If as you say they are similar in size, then it could be either of those. With the wolves released in the area though, I wouldn't rule that out. I am not saying it was a wolf, just saying that in my opinion is possible. The wolves that were released are out there somewhere. But like I said, if it were me I would make sure the chickens are secure and leave it alone. I don't shoot predators just because they are there with the exception of Raccoons.

 

[mohillbilly]

Find some of the articles--many circulated on posts about coyotes in this section--on the relationship between red wolves and Eastern coyotes. The general consensus of those that have studied them is that the red wolf is a coyote-cross and no longer a pure animal. Likewise most Eastern coyotes show signs of having grey wolves in their ancestry. Either of these may account for the foot size and the odd howling. Size-wise red wolves and the Eastern coyotes are very similar. I still maintain that there is no way it can be a grey wolf that far from their known range. I also guess that those tracks were made, in all probability, by a domestic dog.

If your talking about gray timber wolves I was told none were here in MO. but then I have seen a pack of 5 hunting from my deer stand last year they are very effective hunters messed up my shot at a buck but then they got him first.

 

[Zootopia]

Also every picture that shows a front and rear...the rear is inside the track of the front. As already mentioned only two canine type animals stride like that. Dog is not one of them.

As someone who has shown dogs for 20+ years, if my prospect does NOT track in a paralell line and therefor whitin it's own track at certain speeds when it paces, it would be discarded.

 

[Southern Oregonihens]

If it is a wolf, count your blessings, and secure your birds. Statistically, its probably a dog...

 

[Desirai]

if it was a wolf I'd be scared for me.. (I'm scared of dogs especially large ones)

 

[Chikn-Chik]

I thank everyone for their input. Later this spring I am going to let my Aussie roam free so he can help keep things safe. In the last snow we had here there was rabbit, fox, and coyote tracks that went right past the chickens all the way to the top of the mountain, where I got trail cam pics of them. By the way, my Aussie lives basically in the middle of all the chickens, and wild animals still move close around there.

 

[Chikn-Chik]

These videos were taken on my trail cam. And sorry for the quality, I had to record it from my laptop. I figured its something you don't see everyday!

http://s1109.photobucket.com/albums...tion=view&current=2012-01-23_19-51-00_369.mp4
http://s1109.photobucket.com/albums...tion=view&current=2012-01-23_19-50-40_435.mp4

 

[lethldragon]

Ok, the black coyote or whatever it is it's a beautiful animal, and it looks pretty big too

 

[woodmort]

Coyotes come in a lot of color phases--red, light tan, grey, yellow, black. Also the color can vary depending on the time of year. Also don't trust everything you see on a trail cam--remember the animals aren't posing and the color and size may be distorted.

 

[Chikn-Chik]

Coyotes come in a lot of color phases--red, light tan, grey, yellow, black.  Also the color can vary depending on the time of year.  Also don't trust everything you see on a trail cam--remember the animals aren't posing and the color and size may be distorted.

I see what you mean. I have gotten videos of 4 different coyotes within the last month and a half. Two of them are your typical small yotes. But the other two, (ones in the video) are alot bigger.