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They moved away because regulations made it cheaper to import than to build here. Don't blame free trade, blame government intervention. If it's too expensive and requires too much red tape to build and produce here, can you really blame them for going overseas?
As far as the dollar goes, it has NOTHING to do with factories and EVERYTHING to do with the Monster from Jekyll Island - that unconstitutional beast known as the Federal Reserve.
Government interference was actually lifted during free trade -- removing/reducing the restrictions and tariffs that made imported goods cost more than domestic goods.
You're proving my point.
Free trade + ridiculous regulations here = outsourcing to China. Simply LOWERING the minimum wage would help a LOT, though it'd be best to remove it entirely. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of "safety" regulations don't make anyone safer, either, though I admit it's just a suspicion - I'm not familiar with all of OSHA's regulations. Also, there are WAY too many taxes here.
You want America to be competitive? Stop making everything here expensive.
They moved away because regulations made it cheaper to import than to build here. Don't blame free trade, blame government intervention. If it's too expensive and requires too much red tape to build and produce here, can you really blame them for going overseas?
As far as the dollar goes, it has NOTHING to do with factories and EVERYTHING to do with the Monster from Jekyll Island - that unconstitutional beast known as the Federal Reserve.
Government interference was actually lifted during free trade -- removing/reducing the restrictions and tariffs that made imported goods cost more than domestic goods.
You're proving my point.
You want America to be competitive? Stop making everything here expensive.
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You so funny.......
U.S. income tax rate: 35%
China income tax rate: 45%
Taiwan income tax rate: 40%
Thailand income tax rate: 37%
S. Korea income tax rate: 38.5%
Your argument, it is invalid.
U.S. income tax rate: 35%
China income tax rate: 45%
Taiwan income tax rate: 40%
Thailand income tax rate: 37%
S. Korea income tax rate: 38.5%
Your argument, it is invalid.
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I would think that the regulations put on the big factories is a good thing for the worker's sake. Cooperations that moved to places like China are causing so much pollution, and a lot of workers toil all day for just a single dollar, because there they don't have these regulations.
Don't forget to also include the fact that it's easier for the polluters and exploiters to pass along their economic externalities onto developing nations who don't have all that dreaded "red tape".
Pillage the world in the name of cheap goods, it's cool.
Pillage the world in the name of cheap goods, it's cool.
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Careful, we don't want you giving the impression that you're knocking the gospel of "free trade" and "no government regulation." Anything other than absolutely pure laissez-faire capitalism is called "socialism" here.
Careful, we don't want you giving the impression that you're knocking the gospel of "free trade" and "no government regulation." Anything other than absolutely pure laissez-faire capitalism is called "socialism" here.
Having a government at all is technically "socialism"
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SSSHHHH.....they'll hear you.
SSSHHHH.....they'll hear you.
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My degree program (a year away from completion now, it's only taken *coughcoughafewyears* to get this far...) is in reverse logistics. In other words, how to get rid of the "stuff" that people use. Including high dollar e-waste. Should I mention the computer parts that contain hazardous materials that are being dumped in developing nations because of the lack of regulations in those nations? What about the safety of the population?
People need to remember that businesses care about the bottom line and the profit margin. They don't give a crap about the people. OSHA, labor laws, etc are there to benefit the PEOPLE. They are expensive to the corporation, so instead they take their little ditty bags and go to where they can run their $1/hour sweatshop with child labor and women who get raped by their supervisors if they don't maintain their production rates.
My degree program (a year away from completion now, it's only taken *coughcoughafewyears* to get this far...) is in reverse logistics. In other words, how to get rid of the "stuff" that people use. Including high dollar e-waste. Should I mention the computer parts that contain hazardous materials that are being dumped in developing nations because of the lack of regulations in those nations? What about the safety of the population?
People need to remember that businesses care about the bottom line and the profit margin. They don't give a crap about the people. OSHA, labor laws, etc are there to benefit the PEOPLE. They are expensive to the corporation, so instead they take their little ditty bags and go to where they can run their $1/hour sweatshop with child labor and women who get raped by their supervisors if they don't maintain their production rates.
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My degree program (a year away from completion now, it's only taken *coughcoughafewyears* to get this far...) is in reverse logistics. In other words, how to get rid of the "stuff" that people use. Including high dollar e-waste. Should I mention the computer parts that contain hazardous materials that are being dumped in developing nations because of the lack of regulations in those nations? What about the safety of the population?
People need to remember that businesses care about the bottom line and the profit margin. They don't give a crap about the people. OSHA, labor laws, etc are there to benefit the PEOPLE. They are expensive to the corporation, so instead they take their little ditty bags and go to where they can run their $1/hour sweatshop with child labor and women who get raped by their supervisors if they don't maintain their production rates.
Yes...because in pure capitalism, profit becomes the new organism struggling for survival, and it doesn't care about who or what it needs to crush in order to grow. That's why we keep the beast in check with regulation.
My degree program (a year away from completion now, it's only taken *coughcoughafewyears* to get this far...) is in reverse logistics. In other words, how to get rid of the "stuff" that people use. Including high dollar e-waste. Should I mention the computer parts that contain hazardous materials that are being dumped in developing nations because of the lack of regulations in those nations? What about the safety of the population?
People need to remember that businesses care about the bottom line and the profit margin. They don't give a crap about the people. OSHA, labor laws, etc are there to benefit the PEOPLE. They are expensive to the corporation, so instead they take their little ditty bags and go to where they can run their $1/hour sweatshop with child labor and women who get raped by their supervisors if they don't maintain their production rates.
Yes...because in pure capitalism, profit becomes the new organism struggling for survival, and it doesn't care about who or what it needs to crush in order to grow. That's why we keep the beast in check with regulation.
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