Ribh's D'Coopage

[MaryJanet]

Happy First Day of Spring Everyone!
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Or Autumn for you Northern Hemisphere types.

We had beautiful weather here today and I spent all day in the garden trying to get ahead of the weeds.

There are a few things in bloom already.

Native Indigo (Indigofera australis)
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Our self seeded peach tree (Prunus selfseedicus)
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Heart's Ease (Viola iplantedmyselficus)
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and some early Freesias. (Freesia smellsnicia)
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(all scientific names carefully researched, but only one is correct )​

Your Latin is *outstanding*

 

[Aussie-Chookmum]

You are a funny bunny! I wondered if you were seeing who actually read the scientific name? [Yes, I did ]. Well played as @BY Bob would say.

I was thinking of you and your hubby when I added the "scientific names".

 

[rjohns39]

Good evening folks

 

[Grammy60]

Good evening everyone

 

[Shadrach]

My house guests are gone!!!We are enjoying our quiet.

More chicken time then.

 

[BY Bob]

Happy First Day of Spring Everyone!
​

Or Autumn for you Northern Hemisphere types.

We had beautiful weather here today and I spent all day in the garden trying to get ahead of the weeds.

There are a few things in bloom already.

Native Indigo (Indigofera australis)
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Our self seeded peach tree (Prunus selfseedicus)
View attachment 2315540

Heart's Ease (Viola iplantedmyselficus)
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and some early Freesias. (Freesia smellsnicia)
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(all scientific names carefully researched, but only one is correct )​

I love your scientific names. They cracked me up. Well played!

We don't celebrate the start of autumn until the 22nd up here. It happens to be my youngest daughter's birthday. Do you celebrate it on September 1st down under?

 

[Shadrach]

That's the game. But it's not just creating the vaccine. It's making enough vaccine. There is no excess capacity for vaccine distribution. There is nowhere near enough syringes and vials being made. The system has no excess capacity. Those kinds of manufacturing facilities do not pop up overnight.

While death is often a tragedy for those who are close to the deceased it's worth bearing in mind that people die. It's what we are supposed to do.
As of yesterday, in the USA, 567 people per population million have died with Covid 19 detected in their bodies (even this may not be accurate and an overstatement) This works out at 0.0557% per million people!
50% of your per million population dying....serious problem, panic permitted.
10% of your per million population dying....not clever but hardly extermination of the species.
1% of your per million population dying....happens all the time, not worth more than a short column in the obituaries.
0.1% of your per million population dying....
0.05% of your population per million dying....give trillions to big business, lock sections of your population down. Create massive unemployment and scare everyone into wearing a burka!
Something has gone horribly wrong. Science and politics have shaken hands and one of them has come away with a couple of fingers less than they had.
I wear the mask when I leave here and try to avoid crowded places. I do this because it's required and considered socially responsible.
The vaccine? We might make one that works to reduce the mortality rate; it won't stop people contracting the virus. Most who know their onions are saying that the logistics are impossible and that so far, even with a reasonable effective vaccine, the risk reduction is likely to be short lived. In other words, it may prevent you dying this time but next is another matter.
While all this is going on the virus is mutating, looking to optimize it's survival chances. The smarter virus work out that dead creatures don't make good hosts. They have these meetings saying 'look chaps, we're overcooking this one. Lets just make them a bit sick and then move on'.
One day we will get a killer virus. The odds are in favour. Lets hope the government incumbents are a lot more competent than the showers of shite we have currently. Hopefully I'll be dead by then.

 

[BY Bob]

Good evening folks

Good evening everyone

Good morning all.

 

[BY Bob]

While death is often a tragedy for those who are close to the deceased it's worth bearing in mind that people die. It's what we are supposed to do.
As of yesterday, in the USA, 567 people per population million have died with Covid 19 detected in their bodies (even this may not be accurate and an overstatement) This works out at 0.0557% per million people!
50% of your per million population dying....serious problem, panic permitted.
10% of your per million population dying....not clever but hardly extermination of the species.
1% of your per million population dying....happens all the time, not worth more than a short column in the obituaries.
0.1% of your per million population dying....
0.05% of your population per million dying....give trillions to big business, lock sections of your population down. Create massive unemployment and scare everyone into wearing a burka!
Something has gone horribly wrong. Science and politics have shaken hands and one of them has come away with a couple of fingers less than they had.
I wear the mask when I leave here and try to avoid crowded places. I do this because it's required and considered socially responsible.
The vaccine? We might make one that works to reduce the mortality rate; it won't stop people contracting the virus. Most who know their onions are saying that the logistics are impossible and that so far, even with a reasonable effective vaccine, the risk reduction is likely to be short lived. In other words, it may prevent you dying this time but next is another matter.
While all this is going on the virus is mutating, looking to optimize it's survival chances. The smarter virus work out that dead creatures don't make good hosts. They have these meetings saying 'look chaps, we're overcooking this one. Lets just make them a bit sick and then move on'.
One day we will get a killer virus. The odds are in favour. Lets hope the government incumbents are a lot more competent than the showers of shite we have currently. Hopefully I'll be dead by then.

We are getting a little far afield of chickens so one last comment and I'm done. Sorry @Ribh please forgive me.

Shad, this is the problem. Prove that the rate isn't being held down and lives aren't being saved because we have given "trillions to big business, lock sections of your population down. Create massive unemployment and scare everyone into wearing a burka!"

 

[Shadrach]

I have no doubt that the rate of deaths of people tested positive for Covid is being held down. At what price though? If one believes every life should be saved if possible regardless of price as many here do with their chickens then we are at an idealogical point of divergence and we shake hands and talk about something else.
I don't believe the above and to justify 'the price' one would have to take in so many factors, it's an impossible model to base a sensible discussion on. Has for example saving the life of a Covid positive patient killed a person who can't get treatment for their heart condition etc.

Part of the problem I believe is we are being presented with an either or argument when there are other options. Would it for example make more economic sense to pour some of the billions being spent into a better health care system. Perhaps this would save more lives from all ailments if that was your goal.

Obviously I don't believe that the saving of a life supersedes all other considerations. Nature doesn't view life like, I don't view my life like that, and to bring it back to chickens.... I don't manage the chickens like that.
To my mind there is an arrogance in the human belief that we can fix everything. For some of the chickens here I could have extended their life at some cost in both financial and emotional terms. They will still die though. Some things you just can't fix. I'm left with, is it better to give them a quick and painless death (as much as our knowledge and medicine permits) or artificially keep them alive, often in obvious pain and distress because the means are available.

Again from an ideological standpoint I would rather have the option at least to die quickly and painlessly than be kept alive only partially functioning because 'we can'.
Bottom line for me and the chickens....maximum quality of life while we are able to live it.