why do people think that its more humane to euthanise an animal then kill it any other way,, your overdosing them on drugs, or stopping their heart till its brain dies. < sorry OP just a thought...,BUT,, where are you located,, i will take them both and teach them how to behave,, rooster reds page pretty much spells it out,, and i basically do the same thing. and havent found a roo i couldnt teach....yet