Ashandvine, my chicks where pretty much all yellow down when I received them. Not knowing much about the breed I was worried I might have gotten some not so pure Orloff. They have started looking more like Orloff as the weeks go by except for a few that barely have any tufts on their face. A few have what seems like way to much white ( read somewhere that this is not standard for spangling) in their spangling but they are still very young. I lost two this past week due to all the rain & temperature dropping drastically. I am still new to the breed but hope that through this & other means we can bring the Orloff back strong here in the states. Even considered trying to import some of the other rare colors from the UK but not sure how much that would cost or the hazzle of it. I haven't taken any pictures of my Orloff lately but it is long overdue, just have a lot going on now with work & training. I managed to acquire a really nice white bantam Orloff pair a few weeks ago though & they are adorable.