Seabright issues

[NagemTX]

Do Seabrights have skeletal issues?

Dr. Girlfriend is crooked from beak to tail, almost like scoliosis.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Do Seabrights have skeletal issues?

I'm not personally familiar with or heard anything specific to Seabright.

Malformation (in chicks) can be caused by a variety of conditions (like inadequate turning) as mentioned starting around page 53 of the following link with skeletal conditions mentioned later under certain nutrient deficiency/toxins of the hatching egg, being.. Vitamin A (+ or -), manganese, zinc,..

https://www.hubbardbreeders.com/media/incubation_guideen__053407700_1525_26062017.pdf

Did you hatch this one? Was it assisted?

I know those things are a lot harder to see at hatch, if it did come from hatchery or elsewhere.

This link loads slowly so I haven't gotten to review it fully yet but has wry tail and twisted face information.. I mean it's also about cattle.. but I like to see what can be extrapolated..

https://krex.k-state.edu/bitstream/handle/2097/25180/LD2668T41957E95.pdf?sequence=1

This one discusses it some.. Might be some recessive gene things going on..

https://onceuponachicken.com/is-wry-tail-genetic-in-chickens/

I did read several more studies, but no significant findings worth sharing.

 

[NagemTX]

I'm not personally familiar with or heard anything specific to Seabright.

Malformation (in chicks) can be caused by a variety of conditions (like inadequate turning) as mentioned starting around page 53 of the following link with skeletal conditions mentioned later under certain nutrient deficiency/toxins of the hatching egg, being.. Vitamin A (+ or -), manganese, zinc,..

https://www.hubbardbreeders.com/media/incubation_guideen__053407700_1525_26062017.pdf

Did you hatch this one? Was it assisted?

I know those things are a lot harder to see at hatch, if it did come from hatchery or elsewhere.

This link loads slowly so I haven't gotten to review it fully yet but has wry tail and twisted face information.. I mean it's also about cattle.. but I like to see what can be extrapolated..

https://krex.k-state.edu/bitstream/handle/2097/25180/LD2668T41957E95.pdf?sequence=1

This one discusses it some.. Might be some recessive gene things going on..

https://onceuponachicken.com/is-wry-tail-genetic-in-chickens/

I did read several more studies, but no significant findings worth sharing.

This was a purchase from TSC.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

This was a purchase from TSC.

My TSC orders from Hoover's, some use other hatcheries also. Probably easy to find out for anyone who's not sure (and doesn't wanna call to ask) by clicking order live birds from the TSC site with your "home store" selected for.

2 out of 4 of the birds I got last year from TSC are throwing meat spots in their eggs and have never stopped at about 45 weeks old now. Different breeds even.. a white Rock and an Easter Egger.. the EE also has color (cream to tan) and shell hardness glitches. The Rock is broody as can be.. her first attempt at 8 months old was broken only to return 6 weeks later. She's now doing a decent job raising babies I didn't truly want and being considered for harvest unfortunately. Why I (we) try so hard to accommodate the animals is beyond me at times.. Well in truth, I know.. it's a labor of Love! (Both the EE have wry tail, to opposite sides! One reason I read studies.. I feed Purina Flock raiser)

My Silkies from TSC this year have fully feathered legs including the inside and on those extra toes.. kinda like an Eagle or other fully feather legged bird (maybe Grouse). I didn't truly want them either but there were only 2 Leghorn available and they have a 4 bird minimum with straight run Brahma being my other choice. Generally speaking Silkie chick offspring sell like hotcakes around here, so it seemed like the better choice for my feed bill. I won't be breeding them for myself though, feathered feet make extra messy eggs during rain season. I did THINK about doing a project for the fully feathered legs thing or seeing if anybody else wanted to. Aside from the extra feathers they look pretty good, correct toes, combs, skin color, etc. and bearded. Of the 2 leghorn "pullets" one is a cockerel and the female has extra feathers extending down her shanks some.

If I hadn't done my share of breeding and hatching (and had unseen things pop up in offspring).. I'd be so ticked about the things I'm seeing.. but in large numbers you're guaranteed to see more things, so please understand I'm not hating on them (fully). I will note the Gold Sex link has a great personality and is a champion layer. I hope she levels off and stays a while. Oh and another random note (to share the good not just the "bad").. the Leghorn pullet is super curious, friendly, and funny as can be!

It cost me $100 to raise those 4 birds to POL.. to have half throwing eggs I can't/won't share.. makes for some tough choices (that haven't fully played out yet).

With regards to Dr. Girlfriend.. There were no indicators that wry tail should cause laying problems.. but, I'd probably be alert for the onset of lay and wanna make sure eggs are passing well.. maybe check those pelvic bones as the time approaches to see if there's enough spread there to allow an egg through.

I wonder if it's worth any effort to report back to hatchery.. many use contract breeder farms and cannot likely track origin of this specific chick.. so seems like a probable waste.

 

[sourland]

Looks like a combination of wry tail and slight cross beak - it happens. I would not hatch any of her eggs.

 

[NagemTX]

Looks like a combination of wry tail and slight cross beak - it happens. I would not hatch any of her eggs.

Won't be hatching from her. The other Sebright pullet has a straight comb so where ever they came from has issues in their lines. I'll be waiting till next year and order some or hit a show.