My Zeena has only half long, thick scapular feathers and paired to a gander from Holderreads (which is smoothed breasted, and he helped me chose) has produced very curly and very cool colors. The problem with buying Sebs is that if you want the fun of raising a gosling or two you have to gamble on sex and amount of feathering. I would think anyone who is selling gosling should have the parents also for viewing, or pics if you buy them by mail.That doesn't guarantee they will come out just like the parents, but you at least have a clue to what you may end up with. Hopefully the sellers are honest. If I had my way I would only sell mine as adults, both to insure the buyer got what they wanted, and because I've sold geese in the past as youngsters, which turned out to be the ones I wish I had kept! It really doesn't take that much effort to research pictures and prices of hatcheries and private breeders. There will always be a few people out there who care nothing for the breed and are just in it for the money. I am not defending them, but I don't think they are that hard to pick out!