Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Iluveggers]

I'll get you a plot over here.
I'm trying to decide what to plant in mine.

I wish! Gardening is one of my favorite activities!

 

[Perris]

That both fishmeal and mealworms come from areas of the world that we have no control over the methods of production or the quality/standard of the product.

hmmm, not sure about that; this problem attaches to the methods rather than the locations of production. Some other excerpts from Spector: Fake fish is big business. A global report of 55 countries and 25,000 samples suggested the problem affected 1 in 5 fish sold...(examples from) Italy…Belgium…Germany…UK…in a Los Angeles survey using DNA testing between 2013 and 2015, half of raw fish in sushi was mislabelled…US survey reported over 70% of sushi tuna was fake.

 

[Shadrach]

hmmm, not sure about that; this problem attaches to the methods rather than the locations of production. Some other excerpts from Spector: Fake fish is big business. A global report of 55 countries and 25,000 samples suggested the problem affected 1 in 5 fish sold...(examples from) Italy…Belgium…Germany…UK…in a Los Angeles survey using DNA testing between 2013 and 2015, half of raw fish in sushi was mislabelled…US survey reported over 70% of sushi tuna was fake.

Interesting. I'll broaden my reading on the subject.

 

[Shadrach]

I wish! Gardening is one of my favorite activities!

When it comes to vegetable plots I'm a lets find out what others here grow and try some of that.

 

[Perris]

Interesting. I'll broaden my reading on the subject.

Spector is writing about human diets and nutrition, but for those who lack the time or interest to read it, his advice is: the closer the fish are to the source of the original nutrients in plankton, the healthier they are for us (and fraud is harder with whole small fish; but who among us can tell one sort of fish from another when they're processed into skinned fillets/ chunks?). Sardines score well here.

 

[RoyalChick]

hmmm, not sure about that; this problem attaches to the methods rather than the locations of production. Some other excerpts from Spector: Fake fish is big business. A global report of 55 countries and 25,000 samples suggested the problem affected 1 in 5 fish sold...(examples from) Italy…Belgium…Germany…UK…in a Los Angeles survey using DNA testing between 2013 and 2015, half of raw fish in sushi was mislabelled…US survey reported over 70% of sushi tuna was fake.

Goodness - what is fake fish made of? Chicken? Or does that mean just the wrong kind of fish?

 

[MaryJanet]

Goodness - what is fake fish made of? Chicken? Or does that mean just the wrong kind of fish?

I took it to mean mislabelled. But I may have missed the point.

 

[MaryJanet]

Spector is writing about human diets and nutrition, but for those who lack the time or interest to read it, his advice is: the closer the fish are to the source of the original nutrients in plankton, the healthier they are for us (and fraud is harder with whole small fish; but who among us can tell one sort of fish from another when they're processed into skinned fillets/ chunks?). Sardines score well here.

You're making me very grateful for my brother. He's a recreational fisherman and I'm often given some excess catch.

 

[Perris]

Goodness - what is fake fish made of? Chicken? Or does that mean just the wrong kind of fish?

generally it's cheaper fish being sold as a more expensive one e.g. "in Italy, 82% of grouper, perch and swordfish sampled were switched for a cheaper, often endangered, species; in Belgium and Germany, most bluefin tuna and sole sold was actually something else...in the UK cod...is often replaced by cheaper pollock...cheaper varieties of scampi are mainly scraps of white fish like Vietnamese pangasius catfish bound together with a dozen chemicals flavourings and dyes and moulded to make them look like real prawns...of 27 samples (of caviar) tested genetically, only 10 were accurately labelled, 7 were completely fake, not even containing fish, many were lumpfish, and four contained illegal wild caviar". He provides refs in footnotes for all these so they are checkable if you're really sceptical.

 

[RoyalChick]

generally it's cheaper fish being sold as a more expensive one e.g. "in Italy, 82% of grouper, perch and swordfish sampled were switched for a cheaper, often endangered, species; in Belgium and Germany, most bluefin tuna and sole sold was actually something else...in the UK cod...is often replaced by cheaper pollock...cheaper varieties of scampi are mainly scraps of white fish like Vietnamese pangasius catfish bound together with a dozen chemicals flavourings and dyes and moulded to make them look like real prawns...of 27 samples (of caviar) tested genetically, only 10 were accurately labelled, 7 were completely fake, not even containing fish, many were lumpfish, and four contained illegal wild caviar". He provides refs in footnotes for all these so they are checkable if you're really sceptical.

More horrified than skeptical!
I had been using an app to help with responsible fish buying and it became absurdly complex so I have ditched it and instead signed up with a subscription service direct from an Alaska fishing fleet.
It is expensive and of course limited to whatever they catch in Alaska and flash freeze on the boat, but so far I am happy with it and am certain I am not eating fake fish.
Incidentally, I have always rather liked Pollock so wouldn't need it to be passed off as cod to enjoy it!

Fishing tax courtesy of Babs who has been stuffing her face with whatever it is that lives underneath the pile of rotting leaves: