I can understand people selling birds and honestly not knowing that said bird is ill or what have you, but it seems this owner was fully aware of the trouble you were expected to receive. Which is disgusting. YES, please complain.
Should I complain???
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I don't think you can, unless the transaction was the result of a post in the BST section.
I don't think you can, unless the transaction was the result of a post in the BST section.
pips&peeps
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The problem here is that you didn't quarantine. Yes, you got some chicks with cocci, but it is very treatable and when jumped on losses are minimal.
You can't prove that the seller gave you mareks disease either. Have you purchased birds from other sources in the last 4-6 months??? (been to a show, frequented places where birds or their owners are present?)
I am in no way defending the seller and you should get some kind of compensation, but quarantine is a must for all ages of birds, I even suggest it for day olds.
You can't prove that the seller gave you mareks disease either. Have you purchased birds from other sources in the last 4-6 months??? (been to a show, frequented places where birds or their owners are present?)
I am in no way defending the seller and you should get some kind of compensation, but quarantine is a must for all ages of birds, I even suggest it for day olds.
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The problem here is that you didn't quarantine. Yes, you got some chicks with cocci, but it is very treatable and when jumped on losses are minimal.
You can't prove that the seller gave you mareks disease either. Have you purchased birds from other sources in the last 4-6 months??? (been to a show, frequented places where birds or their owners are present?)
I am in no way defending the seller and you should get some kind of compensation, but quarantine is a must for all ages of birds, I even suggest it for day olds.
I completely agree. There are also so many illnesses that they can acquire from wild birds.
The problem here is that you didn't quarantine. Yes, you got some chicks with cocci, but it is very treatable and when jumped on losses are minimal.
You can't prove that the seller gave you mareks disease either. Have you purchased birds from other sources in the last 4-6 months??? (been to a show, frequented places where birds or their owners are present?)
I am in no way defending the seller and you should get some kind of compensation, but quarantine is a must for all ages of birds, I even suggest it for day olds.
I completely agree. There are also so many illnesses that they can acquire from wild birds.
This seller clearly knew the birds were sick, hence refusing to let you see the very obvious signs of illness before you paid for them. This seller knew they were diseased and sold them as healthy animals. Even had the nerve to intimate that YOU would contaminate their CLEAN environment...
That said they should take the birds back and refund you the costs.
But you cannot hold them accountable for your birds' illness since you chose to bypass all normal quarantine procedure, and especially with clearly ill birds. If you've been paying to treat their birds, instead of taking them strait back, that was your choice as well. You can either keep the birds, heal them up, and move on. Or you can try to return them and get a refund of your purchase price, though not necessarily any costs of treating them. Really depends on just how scrupulous (or not) the seller is.
Either way you go I'd definitely do what you could to spread the word that anyone in your area (anywhere really) should be sure to check each chick, beak to bum, before accepting delivery. Good luck. Hopefully your birds will get well quickly.
That said they should take the birds back and refund you the costs.
But you cannot hold them accountable for your birds' illness since you chose to bypass all normal quarantine procedure, and especially with clearly ill birds. If you've been paying to treat their birds, instead of taking them strait back, that was your choice as well. You can either keep the birds, heal them up, and move on. Or you can try to return them and get a refund of your purchase price, though not necessarily any costs of treating them. Really depends on just how scrupulous (or not) the seller is.
Either way you go I'd definitely do what you could to spread the word that anyone in your area (anywhere really) should be sure to check each chick, beak to bum, before accepting delivery. Good luck. Hopefully your birds will get well quickly.
That is terrible.
I let anyone on my farm, I know to some that is a no-no, but I do.
I just dont let anybody in my incubation/brooder room......ever.
Now all my chicks are outside in the brooders in the barn now so it is warm enough.
But if you come to buy chicks, I bring out twice as many as you are wanting and let you pick, so I never hide anything.
I am just funny about the humidity level in my room.
I let anyone on my farm, I know to some that is a no-no, but I do.
I just dont let anybody in my incubation/brooder room......ever.
Now all my chicks are outside in the brooders in the barn now so it is warm enough.
But if you come to buy chicks, I bring out twice as many as you are wanting and let you pick, so I never hide anything.
I am just funny about the humidity level in my room.
It shouldn't have happened.
However, not showing the birds and facility is simply good bio-security. It is not an indication that the breeder is hiding anything.
You simply can not rely upon people using any common sense. I learned my bio-security lesson a couple of decades ago when I was working out of an animal shelter.
A family with 6 small children came in with a dying dog. They were too cheap to take it to the vet, so they brought it in to the pound and surrendered it. All the kids hugged and kissed the dog goodbye, and then their parents sent them into the kennel area to put their germy-dying-dog fingers into every kennel and to pet every dog in the shelter, sticking their nasty diseased fingers into eyes and mouths.
The shelter had to be closed to the public and over half the dogs in the shelter died.
You don't know where people have been, what they have on their shoes, what they might have sick and dying at home.
And Nadine makes a very good point. You simply can not assume that people will have any control over their children.
However, not showing the birds and facility is simply good bio-security. It is not an indication that the breeder is hiding anything.
You simply can not rely upon people using any common sense. I learned my bio-security lesson a couple of decades ago when I was working out of an animal shelter.
A family with 6 small children came in with a dying dog. They were too cheap to take it to the vet, so they brought it in to the pound and surrendered it. All the kids hugged and kissed the dog goodbye, and then their parents sent them into the kennel area to put their germy-dying-dog fingers into every kennel and to pet every dog in the shelter, sticking their nasty diseased fingers into eyes and mouths.
The shelter had to be closed to the public and over half the dogs in the shelter died.
You don't know where people have been, what they have on their shoes, what they might have sick and dying at home.
And Nadine makes a very good point. You simply can not assume that people will have any control over their children.
I don't let anyone inside my coops period. But, they can see my birds from outside thier enclosure. I have had several people to try and walk into my coop, but I politely tell them that I don't allow that.
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