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[B123]

If I tried it id definitely do the hatch over. I may try a Sylvester hatch over a black roundhead.

May want to cross both ways and see what comes out. What you are shooting for sounds like a genetically "black" bird with some color, so you are breeding towards the black and away from the "crow-wing" coloration of the hatch. There are a lot of modifiers that will drive you nuts, so you would do best to find a really dark hatch and a black roundhead with with a little color in the hackle, the darker the better.

I have a pair of Spanish that are very similar to what you are aiming for, but instead of the dark red, the breeder wanted a light red to almost a fluorescent orange. They breed pretty true.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Don't you mean "duck wing"? "crow winged" is black.

 

[centrarchid]

May want to cross both ways and see what comes out.  What you are shooting for sounds like a genetically "black" bird with some color, so you are breeding towards the black and away from the "crow-wing" coloration of the hatch.  There are a lot of modifiers that will drive you nuts, so you would do best to find a really dark hatch and a black roundhead with with a little color in the hackle, the darker the better.

I have a pair of Spanish that are very similar to what you are aiming for, but instead of the dark red, the breeder wanted a light red to almost a fluorescent orange.  They breed pretty true.

When is came to the hackles and saddle, Ours had a lot of black pattern on edge of feathers making so you did not have the shiny red. I wander what side of the cross the dulling pattern comes from. It is likely not sex-linked.

 

[B123]

Don't you mean "duck wing"? "crow winged" is black.

Yes, thank you Havoc. The Spanish I have do not have much color in the shoulders either. They are pretty dark.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Yes, thank you Havoc.  The Spanish I have do not have much color in the shoulders either.  They are pretty dark.

I knew what you meant but for people that don't know would be confused reading this. Lol

 

[sdm111]

I think it is going to be a "black hatch". Been searching the web and that keeps coming up. I know there's gonna be variables not breeding true here's two I pulled from the net which is pretty much what I'm trying to describe.

Ima try the cross prolly both ways to see what happens

 

[roosterhavoc]

A lot of birds that look like that have black jap in em

 

[centrarchid]

The second bird looks pretty close to the black cocks were bred over our hens. They had the station and peacomb of an oriental. They were also very solid in the frame making them heavy for their apparent size. You can see a lot of the black pattern on the saddle and hackle feathers. On the last bird some of the hackles look solid black.

 

[roosterhavoc]

I'm guessing chickens can't taste too good. I've got stink bugs all over the place and there is 3 pullets on my deck picking them off one by one.

 

[centrarchid]

I'm guessing chickens can't taste too good. I've got stink bugs all over the place and there is 3 pullets on my deck picking them off one by one.

Dare you to try two other types of bugs; Box Elder Bug and Wheel Bug. Female of second has what I call red-*** bags that makes a stink bug smell like roses. My birds make a funny sound and walk away from both. They also do not like the pretty red and black bugs that hang out on milkweed.